Mr Popodopolous Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Read a few tweets about Brtoad being denied a visa this winter, surely bollocks though. More realistically, he'll truly cop it MCG Boxing Day- near enough 100,000 people shouting abuse is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Read a few tweets about Brtoad being denied a visa this winter, surely bollocks though. More realistically, he'll truly cop it MCG Boxing Day- near enough 100,000 people shouting abuse is a lot. Yes, but he'll get that anyway. Or would it all be sweetness and light if he had walked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Only played since 1978 so not much really. I've never seen anyone not walk when hitting to slip. Probably true, but in thirty years umpiring, I never saw a player on single figures walk on a fine nick if he thought that I'd missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Probably true, but in thirty years umpiring, I never saw a player on single figures walk on a fine nick if he thought that I'd missed it. I've played in B&D, Alliance and now WEPL and it's true there are those with a reputation for not walking but Broad's was just too obvious ! Anyway I think he's a cheat, won't change my mind and am obviously in a minority of one ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 You don't have to walk, you can wait for the umpires decision and if the umpire gives it not out then that's it. Nott saying its right but its perfectly acceptable. Australia had themselves to blame for making poor decisions regarding DRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I've played in B&D, Alliance and now WEPL and it's true there are those with a reputation for not walking but Broad's was just too obvious ! Anyway I think he's a cheat, won't change my mind and am obviously in a minority of one ! Is hadden a cheat as well for not walking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Is hadden a cheat as well for not walking? Or Clark for that matter.. Its part and parcel of the game. That's why if DRS is used correctly then it can make that batsman look a tad silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Is hadden a cheat as well for not walking? FFS you can't compare the two ! I've not walked when not sure, I assure you it can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 FFS you can't compare the two ! I've not walked when not sure, I assure you it can happen. I'm just asking the question Eco. I'm not getting at you. Hadden knew he snicked it. He turned and looked at prior then kept his head down after. It was only a feather edge I accept. Broads was a thick edge into the keepers gloves that deflected onto slip. I'm just asking your opinion. Are they both cheats for not walking? I'm not being sarcastic in my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Even Glenn McGrath on tms said Hadden knew he snicked it. He looked around to prior then kept his head down waiting for the decision. That was mcgraths words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 A brilliant test match and fair play to the Aussies for getting so close. I hope people now realise this isn't going to be the trashing that most predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Putting sportsmanship, spirit of game aside etc- had Haddin not looked behind but instead stood there impassive might he have got away with it a'la Broad do we think? Series wise, always thought it'd be close- Australia are stiill Australia, transition or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Even Glenn McGrath on tms said Hadden knew he snicked it. He looked around to prior then kept his head down waiting for the decision. That was mcgraths words Of course, if Haddin knew he snicked it he's also a cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Putting sportsmanship, spirit of game aside etc- had Haddin not looked behind but instead stood there impassive might he have got away with it a'la Broad do we think? Series wise, always thought it'd be close- Australia are stiill Australia, transition or not. Broad got away with it because the Aussies ran out of reviews. I went up straight away on the hadden one. You could hear the snick from the stump camera/microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Read a few tweets about Brtoad being denied a visa this winter, surely bollocks though. More realistically, he'll truly cop it MCG Boxing Day- near enough 100,000 people shouting abuse is a lot. 5000 English fans will get behind him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Read a few tweets about Brtoad being denied a visa this winter, surely bollocks though. More realistically, he'll truly cop it MCG Boxing Day- near enough 100,000 people shouting abuse is a lot. What the Aussie fanatics... Noone would be worried about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Broad is a brat, it's pretty well known in cricket, I actually think he thrives on this kind if thing. All those giving him stuck remember that the majority of Aussies would never ever walk, it's the umpires decision, that's the way they've been brought up, so I have no problem in broad not walking and neither did the Australians, yet some on here talk about the spirit of cricket. Geoffrey Boycott summed it up perfectly for me on TMS when speaking to Aggers, he put a good argument across that the spirit of cricket only works when EVERYONE plays by the same rules and that will never happen, especially when the Aussies are brought up to NEVER walk, as it's the umpires decision to give you out, it may be wrong but it's the way it is, not one Aussie pundit or player could say they wouldn't have done what Broad did. On a side note, there's no way this will be 5-0, the Aussies can and will bat a lot better at Lords they just need to sort out the order, in 5 years time they will have a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Have to admit i have always liked Michael Clarke, he is obviously the only World Class player the Aussies have but his reaction during and after this test was first class. I liked the way he laughed about his poor use of the DRS. You can see why he is a lot popular than Ponting ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Have to admit i have always liked Michael Clarke, he is obviously the only World Class player the Aussies have but his reaction during and after this test was first class. I liked the way he laughed about his poor use of the DRS. You can see why he is a lot popular than Ponting ever was. Plus Ponting tended to mouth off at the crowd when they were giving him stick when he was out, Clarke seems to be able just reflect it off and have a joke like as you said with the DRS. Would slightly disagree about him being the only world class player, think Watson is to... although he is currently out of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Broad is a brat, it's pretty well known in cricket, I actually think he thrives on this kind if thing. All those giving him stuck remember that the majority of Aussies would never ever walk, it's the umpires decision, that's the way they've been brought up, so I have no problem in broad not walking and neither did the Australians, yet some on here talk about the spirit of cricket. Geoffrey Boycott summed it up perfectly for me on TMS when speaking to Aggers, he put a good argument across that the spirit of cricket only works when EVERYONE plays by the same rules and that will never happen, especially when the Aussies are brought up to NEVER walk, as it's the umpires decision to give you out, it may be wrong but it's the way it is, not one Aussie pundit or player could say they wouldn't have done what Broad did. On a side note, there's no way this will be 5-0, the Aussies can and will bat a lot better at Lords they just need to sort out the order, in 5 years time they will have a great team. Yep, the criminals will be a very good team in the near future. Especially their bowling attack! Pattinson, Starc and Agar are all very good bowlers. They also have Jackson Bird who is unknown but a huge talent, very similar to Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Broad got away with it because the Aussies ran out of reviews. I went up straight away on the hadden one. You could hear the snick from the stump camera/microphone. I certainly heard it, and so must have Prior. That's why it surprised me that it took England so long to call for a review. Maybe they have a (sensible) policy of taking their time. If it did upset me, which it doesn't, I'd be more bothered by players who walk for the obvious ones and hang about for the little nicks. It didn't bother me when I umpired, because I'd prefer to be left to make the decision anyway. Claiming a catch when you know you've dropped it is another kettle of fish altogether. That IMO is cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yep, the criminals will be a very good team in the near future. Especially their bowling attack! Pattinson, Starc and Agar are all very good bowlers. They also have Jackson Bird who is unknown but a huge talent, very similar to Anderson. I think Agar has the potential to be a very good batsman, too. Glenn McGrath gave the example of Gary Sobers, who was selected as a left arm spinner and seamer, but turned out to be rather a good batsman too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I certainly heard it, and so must have Prior. That's why it surprised me that it took England so long to call for a review. Maybe they have a (sensible) policy of taking their time. If it did upset me, which it doesn't, I'd be more bothered by players who walk for the obvious ones and hang about for the little nicks. It didn't bother me when I umpired, because I'd prefer to be left to make the decision anyway. Claiming a catch when you know you've dropped it is another kettle of fish altogether. That IMO is cheating. Their policy is basically that bowler, captain and wicketkeeper must be all in complete agreement before they review, if one says he is not 100% or disagrees then they wont review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 As the old joke has it, an Aussie will walk - when his car breaks down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Their policy is basically that bowler, captain and wicketkeeper must be all in complete agreement before they review, if one says he is not 100% or disagrees then they wont review. And very sensible it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Have to admit i have always liked Michael Clarke, he is obviously the only World Class player the Aussies have but his reaction during and after this test was first class. I liked the way he laughed about his poor use of the DRS. You can see why he is a lot popular than Ponting ever was. Went to Edgbaston in 2009 for the Ashes and was talking to a couple of Australians during a rain break (which was most the day if I'm honest!) and got on to the topic of Ponting. Still remember what they said when I asked if they understood why we didn't like him: "He's a world class cricketer, but he is from Tasmania, and we think of Tasmanians in the same way you poms think of the Welsh. Sheep Sh@gging inbreed b@st@rds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 FFS batsmen letting us down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 KP? Test Batsman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 KP? Test Batsman? How many chances will Root get? Compton didn't get many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Shocking start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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