The Gasbuster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 WTF. They're predicting Steve Webb may have lost his seat! If that happens then we'll know theLib Dems have had a complete horror show! Yep, he's gone. Astonishing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 UKIP with 13% of the vote yet only one seat yet the SNP with far less has 50 odd seats. Very strange system is this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Expect Tim Farron as new Lib Dem leader, Labour is a lot harder to call. Andy Burnham is a good shout, but I beat Chukka Umunna will throw his hat in the ring. If Farage makes good his pledge to go if not an MP who have they got? Carswell? Mr Funny Mouth as leader? It could spell the end there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Galloway reported to the police for breaking electoral law: https://twitter.com/BBCLeeds/status/596464355555844096 Good riddance, Galloway !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Wake up to see the Greens failing in Bristol South. Now if that result can be repeated in Bristol West this election will have restored my faith in Bristolians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Very good morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Now predicted Conservatives may have the narrowest majority - 326 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Wake up to see the Greens failing in Bristol South. Now if that result can be repeated in Bristol West this election will have restored my faith in Bristolians. Yes. We already have one embarrassment in NLBR2014, we don't want another !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 SNP insignificant ? Over 50 seats FFS !! I think their impact on the election may have been much greater than that - some of the Tory votes in England were probably down to the electorate not wishing to see the SNP in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 What a great night,bet Portland bill is choking on his cornflakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Says a lot about Miliband when his votes are worse than Gordon Brown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I think their impact on the election may have been much greater than that - some of the Tory votes in England were probably down to the electorate not wishing to see the SNP in power. Definitely . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 UKIP with 13% of the vote yet only one seat yet the SNP with far less has 50 odd seats. Very strange system is this.UKIP get 3 million votes and 1 or 2 seats. Green get 1 million and 1 seat. SNP get 1.5 million, with about 56 seats. Edit: The FT has a chart on Twitter which shows this nicely - https://twitter.com/elliot_bentley/status/596550310044262400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 BBC have some interesting analysis: In Tory/Labour marginals there was a slight swing from Conservative to Labour. In SNP/Labour marginals there was a massive swing from Labour to SNP. In Lib Dem/Tory seats there was a large swing from Lib Dem to Conservative. In Lib Dem/Labour seats there was a large swing from Lib Dem to Labour. Basically Labour gained slightly against the Conservatives. However, this was more than offset by the SNP destroying Labour in Scotland and the Conservatives being 2nd in many more Lib Dem seats than Labour so therefore greater able to benefit from the Lib Dem collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I only read his first sentence then gave up. The decision of the British people is absolutely the correct decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I only read his first sentence then gave up. The decision of the British people is absolutely the correct decision. I wouldn't say "absolutely the correct decision". Regardless of individual political standing, the party needs a sizeable majority to be sure of passing laws. It looks like the Tories will only have a very narrow majority which will result in vulnerability. The party will be prone to those on the fringes of the party trying to dictate government policy, as was seen during Major's time. Furthermore, the party will be vulnerable to defections and by-elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I only read his first sentence then gave up. The decision of the British people is absolutely the correct decision. Of course. Though it is the slimmest of majorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'll take that over a labour government any day if the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Bye bye NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Bye bye NHS. Haha Labour and its supporters are obsessed with the NHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Haha Labour and its supporters are obsessed with the NHS Ummmm, because its really important? Start looking for jobs with private healthcare insurance now I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Of course. Though it is the slimmest of majorities. Exactlyy point above. This could potentially lead to weak government and big decisions being avoided. Four examples: Energy policy - Many Conservative MPs are pro-nuclear and anti-wind, however, there are some (such as Zac Goldsmith) who are the opposite. However, something needs to be done as without further investment the country is projected to face increasing bills and the risk of blackouts, neither of which will be good politically. Extra runway capacity in the SE - This is a contentious issue and Conservative MPs in Sussex stood against expansion at Gatwick, yet a separate set of MPs stood on the basis of objection to the expansion of Heathrow for example Justine Greening who actually resigned from the cabinet in the last government on this very point. If no decision is made it is believed the economy will be adversely affected, thus reducing the Conservatives chances of reelection. Housing - All the main parties (including the Conservatives) agreed that the rate of housebuilding needed to increase greatly, as there is currently a housing crisis. The problem is, all major analysts and experts say if the targets are to be met there will need to be building on greenfield sites and possibly the greenbelt. However, many MPs stood against building on such sites in their constituencies. Housing became quite a high issue in this election, and the Tory party will know unless something is done it will be even bigger at the next election. EU referendum - Many Conservative MPs want to be out of the EU, yet there are many who want to remain in the EU. Regardless of eventual result, there is the feeling that the uncertainty caused by such a referendum would impact upon investment etc, therefore damaging the economy which would reduce the Conservatives likelihood of getting back into power. There are many other aspects where there are contradictions. With a strong majority the government can afford for a few MPs to go against the party line, however with a slim majority this is not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Ed Balls up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I only read his first sentence then gave up. The decision of the British people is absolutely the correct decision. Like all these things, it was the decision of a minority of the British people. The correct decision would have been to bring in a degree of proportional representation when we had the chance, then you could make claims like that. To be honest, even if this decision went against my vote, I could accept such a bit easier with a fairer electoral system. I'm sure UKIP, Green and Labour supporters might agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Haha Labour and its supporters are obsessed with the NHS If you or a member of your family fall ill, so might you be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 You lived in Australia when Thatcher threw 4-5 million of us on the dole, I presume ? I did. I was a kid under Hawke and Keating who gave us 2 recessions and my dad lost his job in the pilots dispute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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