The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 He's not even certain to win his seat and there's no need for anyone to invite him into government; no matter how much he'd live to be back in the limelight It's looking possible that Labour will get enough seats to form a government with just the SNP, though I reckon what's more likely is a Lab-Lib Dem minority govt with SNP propping them up in exchange for Miliband agreeing to maintain all the concessions given to Scotland by Cameron (and agreed by all parties to be fair) after the referendum and with them agreeing to maintain there non-voting on English only issues. Can't see the SNP wanting another referendum on independence this soon so the only issue would be Trident which Labour could count on Tory support for the renewal of anyway. What is becoming clear is that another Tory-Lib Dem coalition won't be enough and other than UKIP- who at most are looking at 3-4 seats and probably looking at 1-2- there is no where for them to go in terms of a coalition As much as I share people's nervousness for a Scottish Nationalist influence over the government which is way above their actual vote share, I think they may push Labour a bit to the left and Lib Dem involvement will keep one foot in the centre, leading to broadly socialist policies, but ones that won't bankrupt the country. If it moves away from the thoroughly discredited idea of economic austerity then that's fine in my book Here's hoping, Chip ! High time that asshole Galloway disappeared from politics - permanently ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Other family members have just gone to vote (I voted earlier today) They said people queuing, I have never, ever seen a queue locally to vote. Thought it only happened on tv!!! Not exactly a queue, but certainly the busiest I have ever seen the nearby Polling Station, this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Superb effort from sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Problem is Labour Governments encourage more taxes to pay for more benefits. No. More taxes* to pay for public works, taking people off the dole. Our highest unemployment rate was under Mrs Thatcher's Conservative government. * Historically speaking: the Labour manifesto this time balances tax rises with tax cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The highlighted bit is incredibly sweeping and childish statement. The last time I checked the UK was a democracy unless of course your conviction goes as far as a one party communism state. I've made no secret of the fact I hate the Tories,same as they hate Labour! Where in the democracy booklet does it say that that's not allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Not exactly a queue, but certainly the busiest I have ever seen the nearby Polling Station, this morning. I voted about an hour ago and there was a queue outside of the polling station. I've read on FB that other parts of my town are experiencing the same. Can only be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Problem is Labour Governments encourage more taxes to pay for more benefits. You lived in Australia when Thatcher threw 4-5 million of us on the dole, I presume ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I voted about an hour ago and there was a queue outside of the polling station. I've read on FB that other parts of my town are experiencing the same. Can only be good. Indeed. Normal people are so frightened of Miliband and balls plunging the country back into the 70s, they've come out to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I voted about an hour ago and there was a queue outside of the polling station. I've read on FB that other parts of my town are experiencing the same. Can only be good. You're right Bill, can only be a good thing, whatever the result. I suspect next year's Mayoral election in Bristol will have a significantly higher turnout next year, when compared to the last time. Not sure why, though ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 No. More taxes* to pay for public works, taking people off the dole. Absolute Rubbish, again. Labour are the party of envy and greed. despicable party who represent absolutely no-one. The working class of Scotland vote SNP, Wales Plaid, and England UKIP. Labour are the party of the sub-working class (which funnily enough they created). The only brightside to the coming Labour/SNP government is that they will run the country so badly that we will never let Labour in again (thought 2010 would be the straw that broke the camel's back, but evidently not as the goldfish vote as their parents told them to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Indeed. Normal people are so frightened of Miliband and balls plunging the country back into the 70s, they've come out to stop it. God forbid we are plunged back into a decade when national debt was 10% of GDP (79% now); Britain manufactured its own cars and planes and ships; we had fuel self-suffiency; an affordable rail network ;affordable utilities owned by everyone and the average worker could afford to buy a home in their 20s on one wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Absolute Rubbish, again. Labour are the party of envy and greed. despicable party who represent absolutely no-one. The working class of Scotland vote SNP, Wales Plaid, and England UKIP. Labour are the party of the sub-working class (which funnily enough they created). The only brightside to the coming Labour/SNP government is that they will run the country so badly that we will never let Labour in again (thought 2010 would be the straw that broke the camel's back, but evidently not as the goldfish vote as their parents told them to) It's pointless answering that utter tripe. (Also a tautology "Labour represent absolutely no one" then you say who in your view they represent) I have voted Labour in the past and I'm neither sub-working class (whatever the f**** you mean by that) nor do I vote the way my parents did. Btw PMSL at Labour are the party of greed. You should go on the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 God forbid we are plunged back into a decade when national debt was 10% of GDP (79% now); Britain manufactured its own cars and planes and ships; we had fuel self-suffiency; an affordable rail network ;affordable utilities owned by everyone and the average worker could afford to buy a home in their 20s on one wage. I can remember as a kid the endless number of power cuts, my Mum having to cook dinner on a camping stove due to having no electricity. This was due to strikes of course. I can also remember the national news, reporting from British Leyland plants where production had been stopped due to strikes. Those strikes played a huge part in ending mass production of British cars in this country (along with the cars being shit). Piles of rotting refuse at the end of the street, again due to strikes. Back to the '70's - er, no thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I can remember as a kid the endless number of power cuts, my Mum having to cook dinner on a camping stove due to having no electricity. This was due to strikes of course. I can also remember the national news, reporting from British Leyland plants where production had been stopped due to strikes. Those strikes played a huge part in ending mass production of British cars in this country (along with them being shit). Piles of rotting refuse at the end of the street, again due to strikes. Back to the '70's - er, no thanks ! Yes there was a three day week during Mr Heath's Conservative government and various public worker strikes in 1979 - although it is a myth to say that industrial unrest ended when Mrs Thatcher came to power. More working days were lost to strikes during her first government than were during the Callaghan years. Strikes tend to happen in affluent eras. During times of high job insecurity people are to scared for their jobs to go on strike. Anyway, the point of my post wasn't to suggest that it would be great if everything was like the 70s. The world and the economy has moved on - and I wouldn't want to wear that much polyester again. It was just to point out that some things have got worse and are getting worse since then. The bogeyman stories from the past need to have a dose of balance injected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes there was a three day week during Mr Heath's Conservative government and various public worker strikes in 1979 - although it is a myth to say that industrial unrest ended when Mrs Thatcher came to power. More working days were lost to strikes during her first government than was during the Callaghan years. Strikes tend to happen in affluent eras. During times of high job insecurity people are to scared for their jobs to go on strike. Anyway, the point of my post wasn't to suggest that it would be great if everything was like the 70s. The world and the economy has moved on - and I wouldn't want to wear that much polyester again. It was just to point out that some things have got worse and are getting worse since then. The bogeyman stories from the past need to have a dose of balance injected. Hahaha ! Polyester, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Indeed. Normal people are so frightened of Miliband and balls plunging the country back into the 70s, they've come out to stop it. The 'normal' people are voting for those two! It's the greedy and selfish that aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hahaha ! Polyester, indeed. Don't mention the flares! I'm trying to forget them, and the way they always caught in your bicycle chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes there was a three day week during Mr Heath's Conservative government and various public worker strikes in 1979 - although it is a myth to say that industrial unrest ended when Mrs Thatcher came to power. More working days were lost to strikes during her first government than were during the Callaghan years. Strikes tend to happen in affluent eras. During times of high job insecurity people are to scared for their jobs to go on strike. Anyway, the point of my post wasn't to suggest that it would be great if everything was like the 70s. The world and the economy has moved on - and I wouldn't want to wear that much polyester again. It was just to point out that some things have got worse and are getting worse since then. The bogeyman stories from the past need to have a dose of balance injected. Yes, the strikes did increase during the early Thatcher years. Partly due, IMO, that a high percentage of the dinosaurs running the unions realised their days were numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Absolute Rubbish, again. Labour are the party of envy and greed. despicable party who represent absolutely no-one. The working class of Scotland vote SNP, Wales Plaid, and England UKIP. Labour are the party of the sub-working class (which funnily enough they created). The only brightside to the coming Labour/SNP government is that they will run the country so badly that we will never let Labour in again (thought 2010 would be the straw that broke the camel's back, but evidently not as the goldfish vote as their parents told them to) "Envy and greed" Labour? Haha,nice try fella! Regarding Letting in Labour again,remind me which party haven't won an outright victory for nearly 25 years The people still haven't forgiven Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes, the strikes did increase during the early Thatcher years. Partly due, IMO, that a high percentage of the dinosaurs running the unions realised their days were numbered. We have a different sort of work economy now. More small companies, less heavy industry. Trying to draw modern parallels with the past is bogus. If Britain had had a system like in Germany, where bosses and union leaders work together, we might still have an industrial base. Sadly over here you got the confrotational likes of Michael Edwardes, Ian McGregor etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 "Envy and greed" Labour? Haha,nice try fella! Can't be bothered to read the rest! I can't work out whether he's a parody or not, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I can't work out whether he's a parody or not, Bill. Same with aussie as well. Pretty sure they're just a pair of WUMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I can't work out whether he's a parody or not, Bill. Yes Robbo, 100% Deliberate exaggeration,comic value. Certainly makes me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The 'normal' people are voting for those two! It's the greedy and selfish that aren't. Well, I'm not voting for them, and I am neither greedy or selfish. Despite you voting Labour, I am almost certain that you are not "lazy" or "work shy". No need for the stereotypes, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Well, I'm not voting for them, and I am neither greedy or selfish. Despite you voting Labour, I am almost certain that you are not "lazy" or "work shy". No need for the stereotypes, Bill. It wasn't intended as a dig, I was just replying to a post. Been a long day, apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 It wasn't intended as a dig, I was just replying to a post. Been a long day, apologies. No worries mate. It will all be over tomorrow , and we can all forget about politics (for a while at least !) and go back to swindle, crapdiff & gas baiting ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Very interesting exit poll !! If correct then Con + Lib Dem = 326 seats GOVERNMENT !! & no Janette Krankie ! We will see how accurate this is later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Exit polls suggest I'm right about people coming out to block Milipede and Balls. But then, only exit polls. 2 UKIP MP'S. Embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Exit polls suggest I'm right about people coming out to block Milipede and Balls. But then, only exit polls. 2 UKIP MP'S. Embarrassing If this exit poll is correct, then the apparent rise of the SNP could turn out to be a good thing. That Scottish witch has done nothing to help Millipede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Exit polls suggest I'm right about people coming out to block Milipede and Balls. But then, only exit polls. 2 UKIP MP'S. Embarrassing. Sturgeon's rhetoric may just have backfired. She has rallied the English to vote against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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