BCFC RED Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Anyone know how the Bosman ruling works? Will we be paid compensation if we offer him a contract and he moves on. I'm not sure if its 24 and under or under 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? Stupid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Stupid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Anyone know how the Bosman ruling works? Will we be paid compensation if we offer him a contract and he moves on. I'm not sure if its 24 and under or under 24. https://avoidingthedrop.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/a-crash-course-on-bosman-transfers-and-young-players/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 FWIW, on balance I'm with those who'd like to see him stay, which seems to be the majority. That said, I'm not particularly hopeful and will not be surprised if he leaves. We can all understand what it is about him that might make SC decide to let him go, but if he does, it'll be interesting to see who he brings in as back up to his preferred strike pairing (whoever they turn out to be). Even if you disregard all the valid comments about Jet's entertainment value and outstanding technical skill, there are the hard facts to consider. We know what his scoring record was like last season when he played more regularly. If my stats are correct, he has started only 20 games this season and yet he's still scored 12 goals. SC must be very confident that he can replace that highly respectable scoring ratio if he's prepared to let that sort of capability just walk out the door. Mick McCarthy said when he let Jet leave Ipswich that it was a 'scary' decision that might come back to bite him on the arse (or words to that effect). Arguably, he was right: Jet has done well here, despite all the reservations about his obvious flaws. Moreover, I believe the people who have suggested he's matured are right. He will always be a bit of a maverick at times, but overall his approach on the pitch has become much more responsible and hard-working. He's earned another contract in my book - if he wants it - and his performance yesterday was an absolute masterclass that I won't forget in a hurry. I'll certainly miss him if we lose him. Great post mate. I agree completely. Even his biggest critics have acknowledged he has matured and appears to work harder but to be fair it is glaringly obvious. His attitude has also been spot on. I think it's safe to say that if SC is happy to let him go then he already has someone lined up or in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Great player. we will see what time bring. Hope he stays offcause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonTA2 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Said it at Xmas that he's playing for a contract, hence, fitness, attitude and performances have improved. Shame he didn't turn up at the start of the season fit and that it took him to December. That said, If he's offered a contract and he stays I'd be happy, as long as it's not over 2yrs and represents value - average salary of what ever the squad are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would have thought he would be offered another year purely because allowing anybody with his strike rate to go, and mostly from the bench, is not something you can find easily and they certainly take time to gel. We are also told by Cotts, on many occasions, that the entire squad have been magnificent. All players have gone out of their way to say it throughout the season. We have to assume not one of them is a bad apple. In short, to my mind, it would probably be a very risky business decision to let such a player go. That said what he is offered might not be what he thinks he is worth but I doubt it. He seems very settled. I say this with consideration, as well, that we have an ageing striker and one who, thus far, has not really cut it in the Championship. if we do not secure the services of JET for one more year then we have two strikers who are not necessarily the total sum of their parts so, one might argue, we need more than 2 new strikers. Put another way; Wilbs has maybe one more year, two at the very most i would say at Championship level and Agard is unproven; why did Rotherham let him go without a fight? The remarks on this thread are rather amusing though; people jumping to conclusions rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I would have thought he would be offered another year purely because allowing anybody with his strike rate to go, and mostly from the bench, is not something you can find easily and they certainly take time to gel. We are also told by Cotts, on many occasions, that the entire squad have been magnificent. All players have gone out of their way to say it throughout the season. We have to assume not one of them is a bad apple. In short, to my mind, it would probably be a very risky business decision to let such a player go. That said what he is offered might not be what he thinks he is worth but I doubt it. He seems very settled. I say this with consideration, as well, that we have an ageing striker and one who, thus far, has not really cut it in the Championship. if we do not secure the services of JET for one more year then we have two strikers who are not necessarily the total sum of their parts so, one might argue, we need more than 2 new strikers. Put another way; Wilbs has maybe one more year, two at the very most i would say at Championship level and Agard is unproven; why did Rotherham let him go without a fight? The remarks on this thread are rather amusing though; people jumping to conclusions rather easily. This is where you've got the wrong end of the stick. Worth another year? JET won't be accepting any one year contracts anywhere. He'll be looking for at least two years. If you think he'll accept a years extension with us then you've got another thing coming. Older players, such as Wade Elliot, get offered yearly contracts, not players in the prime of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Really hope he stays, and I am sure we will offer a contract. The real proof will be whether it is a 'see, you mean a great deal to us ' or a 'we would be ok with you staying, but you will certainly get more elsewhere' contract. He is now a free agent, and I am half resigned to losing him, which will be a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Said it at Xmas that he's playing for a contract, hence, fitness, attitude and performances have improved. Shame he didn't turn up at the start of the season fit and that it took him to December. That said, If he's offered a contract and he stays I'd be happy, as long as it's not over 2yrs and represents value - average salary of what ever the squad are on. Thanks for that, Mr Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonTA2 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Thanks for that, Mr Lansdown. That's quite alright you helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I really don't think we do. If he is going I wish him well but it will be best for both parties in my view. You offend the Jet, so you offend me. I challenge you to a fight to the death by knitting needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 You offend the Jet, so you offend me. I challenge you to a fight to the death by knitting needle. How much on knitnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooki Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Thanks for your services JET but time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Seems a genuinely top guy, sublime skills, deceptive pace and a cracking shot but with a work rate usually worse than shocking (but is improving). Big gamble to give him a 2 year 'unconditional' contract, what would come back after the summer recess? What I'd do, offer him that contract but tell him to come back after 2 weeks holiday to resume training - bugger this I'm off to London for the summer. If he was 100% fit and focused at the start of the season, with the likely extra time on the ball, he could have a field day in the Championship. All down to JETs attitude and Cotts instincts. He could be a real top, top player if he wanted to be... but that's been said many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe a pay as you play deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe a pay as you play deal? No way would he accept a pay-as-you-play deal! Stupid suggestion as he could get a couple of years at least elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acton Red Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have been told JET, Burns, Elliott and Osborne gone tomorrow by my source. Lets see if he is right. I think he is pretty credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have been told JET, Burns, Elliott and Osborne gone tomorrow by my source. Lets see if he is right. I think he is pretty credible. Could be an uproar on here tomorrow then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have been told JET, Burns, Elliott and Osborne gone tomorrow by my source. Lets see if he is right. I think he is pretty credible. I'm calling bullshit. JET and Elliott are feasible but both Burns and Osbourne are under contract so they won't be off anywhere tomorrow and I highly doubt that it'll be announced that both are on the transfer list. Why do I think this? There was no need to include Burns on the bench yesterday let alone give him game time considering he played the day before for Cheltenham. The only one of our 'out on loan' players not to be involved in any of the celebrations is El-Abd. His absence almost certainly signals the end of his City career for me. As for Osbourne and Burns, while I wouldn't rule out either of them leaving, to say they'll both be gone tomorrow isn't factual especially as they've both been so involved over the last couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have been told JET, Burns, Elliott and Osborne gone tomorrow by my source. Lets see if he is right. I think he is pretty credible. Can't see Burns going. Obviously I don't want JET to leave, but am expecting him to. Osborne, maybe, but isn't he under contract? At this rate we'll have no squad left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 No way would he accept a pay-as-you-play deal! Stupid suggestion as he could get a couple of years at least elsewhere! Whoosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I don't think I've ever been upset about a player leaving but I'm pretty certain that will change tomorrow if the 'rumours' are true. Love the bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 This won't be swazzy. Whatever that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Said it at Xmas that he's playing for a contract, hence, fitness, attitude and performances have improved. Shame he didn't turn up at the start of the season fit and that it took him to December. That said, If he's offered a contract and he stays I'd be happy, as long as it's not over 2yrs and represents value - average salary of what ever the squad are on. i suppose that last season when he single handedly kept up within reach of the teams above us in the first half of the season, was just him playing for a contract too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Whoosh! Double whoooosh!! Wheeeeyy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 This is where you've got the wrong end of the stick. Worth another year? JET won't be accepting any one year contracts anywhere. He'll be looking for at least two years. If you think he'll accept a years extension with us then you've got another thing coming. Older players, such as Wade Elliot, get offered yearly contracts, not players in the prime of their careers. You may be correct about the length of contract; not sure saying i had the 'wrong end of the stick' was the correct turn of phrase though. And thinking more on it one might argue a two year deal is better for City anyway from a sell on protective view point. Time will tell quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 You may be correct about the length of contract; not sure saying i had the 'wrong end of the stick' was the correct turn of phrase though. And thinking more on it one might argue a two year deal is better for City anyway from a sell on protective view point. Time will tell quite soon. Wrong phrase or not, a one year contract is out of the question. I agree that another two year deal is better for us and probably the best length contract he'd get from us anyway. Whatever happens today I just hope that if JET is going to be leaving then it's Cotts decision instead of JET turning us down. I trust Cotts plan and recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 if JET goes he goes with my best wishes and a big thank you for the 2 seasons he has been with us. Plus a big congratulations to whatever club do sign him, you are getting a unique player frustrating at times but well worth buying a ticket to watch that little bit of magic that he can turn on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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