Oops Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Eric Dier was superb. The rest of them need a swift and powerful kick in the slats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Oops said: I'm fed up with investing time watching the conservative shite we serve up time and time again. Why not just go out and win a football match? The 23 best players in the country shouldn't need to be told how to win a match....they've been coached for years!!! I hate that the ******* welsh are top of the group, but at least they aren't pretentious or deluded like we are. That's what we did at the WC 2014. People seem to forget that. We went out after two games as i recall for our naivety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Oops said: I'm fed up with investing time watching the conservative shite we serve up time and time again. Why not just go out and win a football match? The 23 best players in the country shouldn't need to be told how to win a match....they've been coached for years!!! I hate that the ******* welsh are top of the group, but at least they aren't pretentious or deluded like we are. This might be why you get frustrated with the performances if you think we should win just because we're England. I gave that up a while ago and I enjoy watching England a lot more since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, JM91 said: That's what we did at the WC 2014. People seem to forget that. We went out after two games as i recall for our naivety. It's not naivety, it's arrogance. 6 changes from a winning team is taking the piss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Positives - Dier and Clyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Andy Carroll would've been perfect tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Frustrating because it seemed to me that by luck Roy was getting to know his best team in the 2nd half vs Wales then the next game he makes 6 effin changes! Rooney had been dictating the previous games with Walker one of the players of the tourney so far and they both get dropped! Crazy tactical decisions and crazy substitutions, the guy hasn't got a clue. I've said before that it won't be our squad that lets us down but our manager, sooner he gets the boot the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Andy Carroll would've been perfect tonight. At giving away free kicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, yardy said: Frustrating because it seemed to me that by luck Roy was getting to know his best team in the 2nd half vs Wales then the next game he makes 6 effin changes! Rooney had been dictating the previous games with Walker one of the players of the tourney so far and they both get dropped! Crazy tactical decisions and crazy substitutions, the guy hasn't got a clue. I've said before that it won't be our squad that lets us down but our manager, sooner he gets the boot the better! Yeah against Wales his hands were forced he had to make them subs. It worked luckily for him but yet he still didn't learn. I am disgusted with him and that we have allowed Wales yet again in a sport to finish above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, Oops said: I'm fed up with investing time watching the conservative shite I watched the other game. I knew England would huff & puff. TBF Wales were brilliant. The most dominant performance I've seen this Euros ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 51 minutes ago, Oops said: Get her off the ketomine. It was awful. The ketamine's a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 well there we go much as predicted. We come on and we do nothing. Nows the time roy you f...,,, chicken nothing to loose Stones at the back Bringing the ball out Barcley can pass a ball But no roy it wll be the same sameo it's a one of game play Rashford you nob!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Poor decision by Woy to 'rest' Rooney and Walker; our two best players overall in the first two games. Without Rooney, especially, we don't work well as a team; it was a disjointed performance with no finish but much credit must go to Slovakia for a great defensive display especially Skirtel who was as superb as I thought Bertrand was poor. I doubt we will play against a better defensive display nor a team who will be able to afford to just defend in the knock out stages, stating the obvious. I am glad the group stage is done; always a cagey affair; now we can see the real England, with a bit of luck. Hope we don't bottle it against the Portugese if that is our destiny in the last 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: Yeah against Wales his hands were forced he had to make them subs. It worked luckily for him but yet he still didn't learn. I am disgusted with him and that we have allowed Wales yet again in a sport to finish above us. To be fair we didn't "allow" Wales to finish above us. They beat Slovakia and Russia. They did what we couldn't do. They deserve to top the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 35 minutes ago, Super said: At giving away free kicks? Giving us a different dimension. Although that would have meant at least one other player would have had to be able to cross the ******* ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 We will make the semi finals chill everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, CITYAREREDANDWHITE said: Giving us a different dimension. Although that would have meant at least one other player would have had to be able to cross the ******* ball. it just needs this song Were shit and we know we are Were shit and we know we are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said: England play a formation that needs wingers and they brought one and his name is Raheem Sterling. Now I don't know the injury situations but Walcott, Townsend, Ox Chamb and my personal favourite Nathan Redmond all would've been quality additions. Even playing an attacking full back at winger may have helped like Cresswell. All I know is that for all the attacking talent I hear that England have, you've scored 1 goal against Russia and Slovakia(FK by the way) and Wales scored 5 past the same teams. As for more space against attacking teams, I'm not buying that too much. England have had some chances and haven't been clinical. This team screams of the good ol boys and their clique. Have wasted spots out there on "big club" players that don't really care. Henderson, Wilshere, Sterling. What do they bring? Nothing. I can't understand why they're there. Why not Townsend? Championship player? One of those in the French though. His teammate who had a 75 yard run knocking defenders over and picking out pin point crosses. Anyway, rant over, but England can't progress under Hodgson and maybe even the FA who saw fit to employ him. I think England will win their next match and everyone will be excited again but I won't. Can't see them going any further than that. England being my new home, I want them to do well but just can't see it. Maybe I'm feeling what all my mates have told me about. Oh well, maybe USA have a chance against Argentina later on. To be fair, Walcott's garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: If Wales had played three teams with 11 men behind the ball for 90 minutes, they might have struggled. Likewise if Slovakia and Russia had played a more open game against us as they did against Wales, we would likely have won those games comfortably. I am not defending our performance tonigh and I do accept we should have been capable of winning the group regardless. But Wales have benefitted from the approach of the opposition. And let's not forget, we did beat them, and we looked comfortably the better side. If, if, if................if we had more point than Wales we would have topped the group, if we win every game from now we are the European champs. It's easy to use if as an excuse, we have had piss easy groups for the last few tournaments and we have consistently failed to win them. It might not bite us in the next round but France, Germany etc await after and I wonder what if's we will be using to explain those games away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, BA14 RED said: Eddie Howe would be my choice Far too young in his career for International management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 hours ago, TRL said: I can't remember us dominating teams like we have in this tournament..... Ever. And with such a young team. I'm Not trying to blow smoke up their ass, as if you have ever seen my postings previously about England you will realise I think they are the most talentless bunch of waters ever! But for once the have actually impressed me with their ball retention at international level. They need to be more ruthless in front of goal, but for the first time in a long time I feel like they can play the international game. We have played the worst Russia side for a LONG time, Slovakia and Wales. Its hardly surprising we have "dominated" against those three teams. Difference being from this tournament as opposed to qualifying is that we can no longer break teams down. Its not impressive IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: To be fair, Walcott's garbage I like Walcott. He is better then Sterling imo. Plus he has pace to burn, can make runs behind the defence, can finish and I like some of his low crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ridiculous, arrogant team selection rightly drawing criticism. Failing to beat two teams that Wales beat comfortably shows how deluded we are about our performances. Three poor performances in which one we just managed to paper over the cracks. New manager needed ASAP to have any chance of progressing as a footballing country. The problems run deeper than that but it'd be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 6 hours ago, collier said: If, if, if................if we had more point than Wales we would have topped the group, if we win every game from now we are the European champs. It's easy to use if as an excuse, we have had piss easy groups for the last few tournaments and we have consistently failed to win them. It might not bite us in the next round but France, Germany etc await after and I wonder what if's we will be using to explain those games away! Which part of "I am not defending the performance and do accept we should have been capable of winning the group" did you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Ridiculous, arrogant team selection rightly drawing criticism. Failing to beat two teams that Wales beat comfortably shows how deluded we are about our performances. Three poor performances in which one we just managed to paper over the cracks. New manager needed ASAP to have any chance of progressing as a footballing country. The problems run deeper than that but it'd be a start. Completely different circumstances though. Slovakia knew they couldn't beat us and only needed a point to qualify (probably), so they put 11 men in defence. Wales didn't have to suffer that. Not that I'm saying it was a great performance, but it wasn't terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 8 hours ago, TRL said: Not if you are judging the last two incumbents. McClaren is English... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I'm not sure I get all the hatred. Again, we played pretty well. On a different night we had enough Chances to win comfortably, but for some heroic defending by that Liverpool goon & co. The way we're playing, we just need it to click and we can beat anyone. Yes, it's disappointing to come second in the group to Wales, but I think most of us would prefer it that way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 9 hours ago, Super said: Poor excuse. we are supposed to have top players! Wales have championship players FFS. Goes to show how good the Championship is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I'm not sure I get all the hatred. Again, we played pretty well. On a different night we had enough Chances to win comfortably, but for some heroic defending by that Liverpool goon & co. The way we're playing, we just need it to click and we can beat anyone. Yes, it's disappointing to come second in the group to Wales, but I think most of us would prefer it that way round. Passing was ponderous,they need to move the ball faster..held the ball OK but its so slow.and the crossing??how many times did we not beat the first man??..only Dier/Clyne with any credit.the lack of pace in our general game meant we couldn't cash in on Vardys sharpness..also felt too many changes took the edge off of momentum from Wales win..now its knockout,we really will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: I'm not sure I get all the hatred. Again, we played pretty well. On a different night we had enough Chances to win comfortably, but for some heroic defending by that Liverpool goon & co. The way we're playing, we just need it to click and we can beat anyone. Yes, it's disappointing to come second in the group to Wales, but I think most of us would prefer it that way round. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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