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2 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

How about SL drop kicks LJ over the Lansdown Stand and extends SC's contract for a couple of years? :dunno::winner_third_h4h:

You can bet Cotterill wished he had a City squad as strong as this in the championship 

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Personally, and this is the sad thing, is that most of it doesn't particularly surprises me. 

The only two things I would pick out is the bit about O'Dowda, we may have 'overpaid' for him and he may only be a 'prospect'. But you have to be willing to pay to get young players of his age who we should remember seems highly rated enough by Martin O'Neill to be getting call ups to their senior side. It doesn't particularly fit in with the much more serious criticisms in the rest of the post for me. However that could just be me being slightly protective of O'Dowda as he is one of a very, very small group of players that can be happy with their recent efforts and performances in my opinion. Certainly last night (bar the miss!) I thought he was excellent.

The only other bit that is difficult to believe, and only because it would be absolutely bat shit mental, is the stuff about telling the players what his dad thinks. Now I like Gary Johnson, but imagine how incredibly weird it would be for Junior to think any of our players are in the slightest bit interested in what the manager of Cheltenham Town thinks of them. Just a bit too ridiculous to believe for me, even from our Football Genius manager.

I should add, and I know this is incredibly harsh,  but the stuff about Engvall I completely believe as it is exactly my thoughts on his limited game time. I of course hope I am wrong, but I have been completely and utterly confused by anything positive people on here have said about him. Again, my opinion is completely unfair on limited viewing, but he has looked an absolute fish up a tree to me.

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The only thing that could possibly make LJ`s untenable job tenable is SL .......but why...where are we going with this plan/project/pillars apart from down....to the lake I fear.

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53 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Admirable loyalty. I was thinking about SC the other day - since leaving BCFC, SC has been shortlisted or linked with the jobs for:

England U21

Coventry

Forest

Blackburn

QPR

MK Dons

Aston Villa

......And didn't get any of them. Despite several interviews, so he is actively seeking.

He can't be 'all that' then, can he?

Turned down the MK Dons job because they offered a pittance, most of the rest of those jobs are either run by nutters or out of his league (England/Villa).

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Always nervous of these big scoops.

LJ says 'my dad says you are rubbish'. Really? Do not like the man, but that is a real stretch for me. Whenever Wes's dad has posted here he has been the model of discretion. Not to say he would not be more open privately, but this smells all wrong to me. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Gustav Engvall was at one of the biggest clubs in Sweden for 5 years, yet only trained with professional footballers because he "one" a football competition?

Dont believe that for a second.

You've jumped before reading properly - In the OP the inference that this was the joke between the City players 

i.e. Engvall had won a competition

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Who knows if it fact of fantasy, all I know is that Little Lee has been at the helm during what be our worst, or near worst run in history....Players are sluggish, tactics are poor, results are horrendous.....Sack him

I would not be surprised if he's like his dad, an odious fellow with little talent, but I don't know

Any help?

 

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6 minutes ago, adamski said:

Who knows if it fact of fantasy, all I know is that Little Lee has been at the helm during what be our worst, or near worst run in history....Players are sluggish, tactics are poor, results are horrendous.....Sack him

I would not be surprised if he's like his dad, an odious fellow with little talent, but I don't know

Any help?

 

I would be surprised if he isn't.

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34 minutes ago, NickJ said:

I think the reason for the volume of anti Johnson threads is not just because Johnson is an awful manager but because ATM nobody knows or can understand why he is still here. This is what makes it all so intriguing. Has Lansdown lost the plot or is there something more sinister?

As I asked already, what could that 'sinister' reason be, in your opinion?

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1 hour ago, MarkRed! said:

Whether this is true or not the fact is that all is not well at BCFC and this explains why we have plummeted. Were not stupid and whilst some shite has been posted, clearly there is no smoke without fire. The following is now very clear:

 

1. LJ wanted Pembo out for next season and approached Ashton. A decision was made to get rid now - that confirms to me that LJ aint going nowhere as why would they bow to his request if he was about to be sacked. Most here would have had Pembo as the caretaker.

2. The notion that LJ was simply agreeing with the board's decision to change the structure by getting rid of Pembo is bollocks. It would appear from Ashton's interview that he instigated it. The question which is unanswered is why did he want Pembo out? Maybe the players were allied to him?

3. Des Taylor has not been sacked. He has gone to Liverpool. Thus, why suggest that we are making the change. Again more bollocks.

4. I don't care what is said but having watched the team a lot it is clear that particular players are not playing for Johnson and this is evidenced by them disappearing from the team.

5. Before he went to Aberdeen, Wes signed a new contract if I recall. Within months he was sold. Makes no sense. I thought it was odd at the time but now we have an insight into why.

6. LJ is a conniving little shit but would he really use his father to criticise the players. If he did, I would fcking chin him.

7.  Elliot, Ayling, Agard, O'Donnell, Williams, Freeman, Wagstaff were all discarded by Johnson... there must be a reason for this and plainly he has rooted out the core of the League One double winners. He has his favourite players though, Flint, Smith and Bryan.

8. Players coming out supporting the manager is just bollocks PR but it shows what kind of culture is being developed behind the scenes.

LJ is a complete and utter fraud and It just makes me sad that a club with so much potential is run in this way. Obviously, Mr Hargreaves rather than SL was the brains behind that business given the way City and the Rugby team are being managed.  It really is mickey mouse. Unfortunately for LJ it will eventually all end in tears. That is the Bristol city way... at that point, there wont be many shedding any tears for him.... he will have also made himself unemployable......

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57 minutes ago, Bobfish said:

A lot of this fits a lot of circumstantial evidence. I remember when LJ first joined as head coach GJ did an interview where he pointly said that LJ would "be more likely to ask his mother for help than me, he is his own man." Yet I remember a radio Bristol interview with LJ who said he and his dad watch all their games back together to talk them through. Not to mention how our U23's is a feeder club for Gj's. And I remember GJ being the commentator for a cup match on radio Bristol, maybe hull, when GJ slated Engvall throughout. In the post match interview LJ sang Engvall’s praises, yet Engvall wasn’t seen, except collecting splinters, for weeks, perhaps after LJ discussed what to do with his dad.

If the letter above is wes’s dad then he is clearly being protective of his son, yet to me calling SC arrogant etc makes this all the more plausible.

Pieces of the puzzle…..I remember people in the crowd and even the opposition manager tweeting about Tomlin’s disgusting language to LJ at Huddersfield?, back just before his first start for us on the bench. Then there is more, our massive drop in form, LJ himself talking about players “he can trust,” players disappearing for weeks at a time, Jens being the latest. I would not be surprised if someone who played, and scored, in the champions’ league was not amused by some of the antics of our napoleon. So much more, the fact LJ is still in his job after such a terrible sequence of results speaks volumes in itself. Not to mention in an interview yesterday he talked about how it was a joint decision to remove pembo, distancing himself, when mark ashton today said how LJ had planned to remove pembo by the end of the season. Even in interviews when on his best behaviour LJ’s spiteful comments come through, Tomlin driving back home effecting his fitness, adam matthews not being a professional, too much cola etc. Players being “naive” (ironic). And how often has he talked about not knowing whether to slap or cuddle the players? The reported incident that led to gary o’neil going to the board when LJ told staff and players not involved in a game to get out of the changing rooms before going mental at those that remained. Maybe all this is made up, but what about the patterns of players being dropped completely for games after these reported incidents, like o’neil and his “niggly” injuries (o’neils words in recent interview), exactly the same words Tomlin used in his “everything is fine” interview about his own non-selection due to “niggly injuries”. These interviews are always a little too convient. And they always talk about how great the team spirit is etc, the “family”. Take the recent pembo thing as well, perhaps the talk of him grabbing Tomlin’s throat is nonsense, but why would pembo, who don’t forget was Tomlin’s coach at Peterborough too so go way back, do this? If Tomlin does hate LJ, which is obvious, then perhaps he did miss that penalty on purpose? Pembo may have been in no doubt of this and as pembo loves/loved the club maybe he did act more aggressively than he should. A caller on RB after the game even said that Tomlin must hate LJ lots by the way he missed that penalty, not even taking a proper run up. 

I am a scientist and know that individually the above can be discounted, lack of evidence etc, but there is a hell of a picture there when it is all put together. And I am sure there are plenty of other similar ones I have missed. And the most obvious point of all is how terrible we are on the pitch. The players ain’t happy. The fans aren’t, but the club is always quick to put music on as soon as half time/full time happens to try and hide the boos, no doubt to be followed with another interview mentioning “unity.”

 

And I must say, I am starting to think some of the posters here defend LJ so quickly that they may get paid by the message. And this is from someone who supported LJ for months and only started to turn after the second Cardiff game.

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You both are so close to my thoughts on everything about this complete cluster-**** going on.

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Completely bull.

Anyone who has spent enough time on this forum over the past year could have wrote this. Have seen most of it in rumours on here and the only new information seems implausible and/or just pandering to popular opinion.

I'm personally aware of a few things that have gone on at the club which would totally contradict a couple of things stated in this 'exposé'.

 

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More I read - it looks like a hash up of some of the stuff that has appeared on here from all sorts of places

Djb did post on here and was always very diplomatic / discreet  when he was undoubtedly in a position to reveal all sorts of behind the scenes

Ive spoken to him a number of times about Wes's welfare / progress and he keeps his opinions on every other thing to himself keeping his posts to Wes  

In fairness it's clever as it tends to give the post credence

Im anything but a LJ fan but even I can't see him quoting his Father to players and that destroys the credibility of the post in all honesty

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21 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

As I asked already, what could that 'sinister' reason be, in your opinion?

If I knew that I would have said, wouldn't I.

As I said, Lansdown has either:

1) Lost the plot or

2) a sinister reason to keep Johnson on the payroll.

The third possibility which I personally discount is that Lansdown's judgment is sound.

Which of the three do think?

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3 minutes ago, NickJ said:

If I knew that I would have said, wouldn't I.

As I said, Lansdown has either:

1) Lost the plot or

2) a sinister reason to keep Johnson on the payroll.

The third possibility which I personally discount is that Lansdown's judgment is sound.

Which of the three do think?

Or just stubborn and not wanting to lose face Nick ?

Playing Russian roulette over relegation / saving face ???

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26 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

More I read - it looks like a hash up of some of the stuff that has appeared on here from all sorts of places

Djb did post on here and was always very diplomatic / discreet  when he was undoubtedly in a position to reveal all sorts of behind the scenes

Ive spoken to him a number of times about Wes's welfare / progress and he keeps his opinions on every other thing to himself keeping his posts to Wes  

In fairness it's clever as it tends to give the post credence

Im anything but a LJ fan but even I can't see him quoting his Father to players and that destroys the credibility of the post in all honesty

Haven't read ALL 4 pages, don't really need to.

For a guy running THAT size business....he's pretty damn illiterate !

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