Jason Knight signed from Derby - Confirmed

[Davefevs]

4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I don't think people understand how modern football transfers work. 

I think people think it goes like buying club scout player, buying club submit bid, selling club accept and then give permission for the buying club to speak to the player. Player then comes down and discusses terms, meets the manager and then makes a decision. 

However the reality is far from that. For example, Mason Mount had agreed terms with Man Utd before Utd had even submitted a bid for him! That's how it sometimes / often works these days.

Yes tapping up is illegal but it goes on in every single transfer so it’s just seen as an acceptable part of the game now.  But you can also bet your bottom dollar that Chelsea has given permission to Mount / His Agent to talk to other clubs.  It might be grudgingly but it will happen.

You don't ever hear of players rejecting clubs these days do you? That's because it all gets agreed well before the two clubs enter discussions. 

The point I'm making is that for us to have submitted bids, we already know that he wants to join us. 

A couple of bits added above.

The one to watch here is David Raya.  Allegedly agreed personal terms with Spurs, but fee still up in the air.

[JackMarch]

34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

A couple of bits added above.

The one to watch here is David Raya.  Allegedly agreed personal terms with Spurs, but fee still up in the air.

They won’t sign Raya now as they’re signing Vicario instead 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, JackMarch said:

They won’t sign Raya now as they’re signing Vicario instead 

Yep, that was what I was alluding to.  

[Leveller]

8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I don't think people understand how modern football transfers work. 

I think people think it goes like buying club scout player, buying club submit bid, selling club accept and then give permission for the buying club to speak to the player. Player then comes down and discusses terms, meets the manager and then makes a decision. 

However the reality is far from that. For example, Mason Mount had agreed terms with Man Utd before Utd had even submitted a bid for him! That's how it works these days.

Yes tapping up is illegal but it goes on in every single transfer so its just seen as an acceptable part of the game now. 

You don't ever hear of players rejecting clubs these days do you? That's because it all gets agreed well before the two clubs enter discussions. 

The point I'm making is that for us to have submitted bids, we already know that he wants to join us. 

“Wants to join us”? or “Has put us on his shortlist of clubs who meet his criteria”?

[Jimbo123]

I’ve got a strangely good feeling about this one.
 

Feel like we’d have moved onto the next target and it would’ve come out by now if we weren’t confident on getting JK.

 

Time will tell, but the fact Percy said we’re getting closer on it is a good sign for me.

[W-S-M Seagull]

16 hours ago, Mr Hankey said:

Not quite as simple as you make it out to be.

Of course most players speak to other clubs before a bid is made, & you are right that not many will say "actually no i don't want to join you" - all modern day footballers, particularly in the lower leagues, will always keep their options open & not burn bridges. He is likely to have already met with Ipswich as well & told them he "wants to join".

This one is anything but a certain signing in my books.

Of course every single transfer is very complicated with lots of moving parts and lots of people involved. 

The point I'm making is that for us to have made multiple bids, we must be very confident that he wants to join us and this would be based on talks with him and his agent. If we wasnt confident then we'd not be wasting our time on making bids and would be moving on to our next target.

[Ska Junkie]

9 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Of course every single transfer is very complicated with lots of moving parts and lots of people involved. 

The point I'm making is that for us to have made multiple bids, we must be very confident that he wants to join us and this would be based on talks with him and his agent. If we wasnt confident then we'd not be wasting our time on making bids and would be moving on to our next target.

Back in the day, didn't clubs give 'permission to talk to the player' once a bid had been accepted or have I imagined it?  

[James54De]

11 hours ago, Jimbo123 said:

I’ve got a strangely good feeling about this one.
 

Feel like we’d have moved onto the next target and it would’ve come out by now if we weren’t confident on getting JK.

 

Time will tell, but the fact Percy said we’re getting closer on it is a good sign for me.

Agree, think we will get him. Whether he will fill the hole, post Alex, is another question.

[downendcity]

6 minutes ago, James54De said:

Agree, think we will get him. Whether he will fill the hole, post Alex, is another question.

Want a hole filled - should be signing Cribbins.

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Bit of chatter at the Ipswich end.

If that's accurate he is having a medical today, only time will tell.

[Redrascal2]

43 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Bit of chatter at the Ipswich end.

If that's accurate he is having a medical today, only time will tell.

Would not be a big surprise being outbid by Ipswich. Presume we have been working on other targets. If true  though still a bitter pill to swallow that Ashton gets one of our targets. 

[RedRoss]

10 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Would not be a big surprise being outbid by Ipswich. Presume we have been working on other targets. If true  though still a bitter pill to swallow that Ashton gets one of our targets. 

I've seen this pop up a few times. Is it really? They are likely to be shopping in the same sort of market. It's just one of those things. I couldn't care less if it's to Ipswich. I'm more gutted if true because I think he'd be a great addition however as one door closes another one opens.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

On 24/06/2023 at 12:29, downendcity said:

Want a hole filled - should be signing Cribbins.

 

In line with the song any preference on who we bury in the hole? Mark Ashton maybe? 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

2 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

I've seen this pop up a few times. Is it really? They are likely to be shopping in the same sort of market. It's just one of those things. I couldn't care less if it's to Ipswich. I'm more gutted if true because I think he'd be a great addition however as one door closes another one opens.

Haven't seen it reported anywhere else yet, it has yet to surface on Newsnow Championship. But if true perhaps they get Knight and we get Taylor. 

[BLRed]

4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Haven't seen it reported anywhere else yet, it has yet to surface on Newsnow Championship. But if true perhaps they get Knight and we get Taylor. 

Wouldn’t make sense, they player most expensive as far as transfer value demand from selling club going to the club with less money to spend.

[Jose]

Let’s hope it’s bullshit. Which by the sounds off the posters history it could well be. 

[James54De]

5 minutes ago, Jose said:

Let’s hope it’s bullshit. Which by the sounds off the posters history it could well be. 

Yep, having read the rest of that thread, it’s obviously a wind up. 

[Midred]

10 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Wouldn’t make sense, they player most expensive as far as transfer value demand from selling club going to the club with less money to spend.

Has that stopped Ashton before?

[Redrascal2]

28 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

I've seen this pop up a few times. Is it really? They are likely to be shopping in the same sort of market. It's just one of those things. I couldn't care less if it's to Ipswich. I'm more gutted if true because I think he'd be a great addition however as one door closes another one opens.

For me. Yes it is. 

[petehinton]

Jack Taylor signing for Ipswich. 
 

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

[James54De]

5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Jack Taylor signing for Ipswich. 
 

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

1.5 million as well. So much for 7 ay. 

[GrahamC]

3 minutes ago, James54De said:

1.5 million as well. So much for 7 ay. 

Peterborough are absolutely full of shit, they always start with this sort of figure before coming into contact with reality.

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Jack Taylor signing for Ipswich. 
 

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

Good player, elegant looking player.  The big question is whether he can translate his Lg1 ability to Champ.  His previous season (21/22) showed a drop off in his effectiveness at this level (compared to 22/23 in Lg1).  Of course some of that could be because he was at a struggling Peterborough side, and against better players.  But tgat is what recruitment is all about, trying to find those that can step-up.

He’s 25, so in his peak years.

Will be interested to see where he fits into Ipswich’s 4231 (predominant), as Chaplin will play in the “10”, so Taylor will be competing with Morsy and Luongo (amongst others).

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Peterborough are absolutely full of shit, they always start with this sort of figure before coming into contact with reality.

Year left on his contract, 6 months ago, they were probably hopeful he’d extend / they’d go up.  The goalposts have moved.

[Merrick's Marvels]

23 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Jack Taylor signing for Ipswich. 
 

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

Good news if you're first sentence is correct. Let's wait and see about your second.

After all, "there's many a slip betwixt cup and lip", as Shakespeare said during the transfer window of 1601. Alternative version? "Don't count thee chickens before them hatched" Adge Cutler, also 1601 (being the century in which the county of Zzzzzomerzet appears to still exist in). 

@GrahamC - calm down 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Cov 77]

28 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Jack Taylor signing for Ipswich. 
 

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

Ashton will probably sign both, he likes to collect players

[Mr Popodopolous]

I've read the thread I posted again after with others looks nonsense. Just someone on the Derby forum described them as an ITK when I was browsing their Knight thread.

34 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I’d say that heavily points to Knight coming here 

Stoke are also interested in Knight, unsure who else.

[alexukhc]

11 minutes ago, Cov 77 said:

Ashton will probably sign both, he likes to collect players

More players, more agents, more brown paper bags 

[Jimbo123]

I think Taylor fits Ipswich’s signing perfectly, good signing.

As they’re keeping on Luongo, we presumably get a free run at Knight now (unless Stoke have anything to say about it). 

[Kid in the Riot]

Looks like Peterborough have had their own "Shagatha Christie" episode this summer!