redkev Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 I wonder how Scott sees it , like said by the previous poster , if no one matches our valuation would Scott / agent suddenly start becoming difficult so to speak . He really does seem to be a decent lad and great friends with the other youngsters also believe he gets on very well with Andy King , it’s also obvious he is very much well thought of by the other senior players . Very interesting few months ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Just looked at the dates of the U20 WC - 20th May to 11th June. Scott would miss the PO Final had we got there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Just looked at the dates of the U20 WC - 20th May to 11th June. Scott would miss the PO Final had we got there! He’d missed the U20 WC you mean 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Just looked at the dates of the U20 WC - 20th May to 11th June. Scott would miss the PO Final had we got there! Ok I’m completely confused. Is the U20 World Cup on? And if so where? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Ok I’m completely confused. Is the U20 World Cup on? And if so where? Thanks in advance 1. Yes 2. Nobody Knows Indonesia were supposed to host but they were stripped of the honour a few weeks ago. No new host confirmed. On that basis I’d also say the exact dates have to be doubtful currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: 1. Yes 2. Nobody Knows Indonesia were supposed to host but they were stripped of the honour a few weeks ago. No new host confirmed. On that basis I’d also say the exact dates have to be doubtful currently. Ok that makes sense and fits with what I have read. Someone told me on here yesterday it was cancelled so I spent an hour looking for the announcement. Nothing of course. I should know better I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Ok that makes sense and fits with what I have read. Someone told me on here yesterday it was cancelled so I spent an hour looking for the announcement. Nothing of course. I should know better I guess! It was effectively cancelled, as predominantly Islamic Indonesia, where the WC was due to be held, refused to allow Israel to compete. FIFA are currently looking for a suitable replacement host nation, at which time dates etc. will be confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: 1. Yes 2. Nobody Knows Indonesia were supposed to host but they were stripped of the honour a few weeks ago. No new host confirmed. On that basis I’d also say the exact dates have to be doubtful currently. Argentina is the likely destination, but not confirmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 Almost inevitably Scott will play the final games (and everyone wants to enjoy watching him while we can) but the likely transfer fee will be transformational for the Club, so It must be a temptation to limit time on the pitch and keep him free of injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fpcity Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 4 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: It was effectively cancelled, as predominantly Islamic Indonesia, where the WC was due to be held, refused to allow Israel to compete. FIFA are currently looking for a suitable replacement host nation, at which time dates etc. will be confirmed. Play it in Israel 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 16 hours ago, bcfcnick said: Almost inevitably Scott will play the final games (and everyone wants to enjoy watching him while we can) but the likely transfer fee will be transformational for the Club, so It must be a temptation to limit time on the pitch and keep him free of injury. There are so many different scenarios it will be interesting to see what happens, as I mentioned earlier I’m not convinced a prem side will spend £25 mil on him. - prem side pays less, maybe £15mil but we include add ons that hit 25mil+ - Scott starts to force move so we end up accepting offer lower than what we want - We play hard ball and refuse to lower asking price due to contract length - Lots of rumour all summer and he leaves towards the end of the window for an acceptable fee - No clubs prepared to come close to meeting asking price - Massive bidding war and ends up leaving for over asking price + add ons (wouldn’t that be nice!!!) either way I’m excited to see what happens, I trust Nigel and CEO to make the right decision for the football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Searles said: There are so many different scenarios it will be interesting to see what happens, as I mentioned earlier I’m not convinced a prem side will spend £25 mil on him. - prem side pays less, maybe £15mil but we include add ons that hit 25mil+ - Scott starts to force move so we end up accepting offer lower than what we want - We play hard ball and refuse to lower asking price due to contract length - Lots of rumour all summer and he leaves towards the end of the window for an acceptable fee - No clubs prepared to come close to meeting asking price - Massive bidding war and ends up leaving for over asking price + add ons (wouldn’t that be nice!!!) either way I’m excited to see what happens, I trust Nigel and CEO to make the right decision for the football club. I may be wrong but he doesn't seem the type to force a move. He seems happy here, That's not to say he won't leave though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Searles said: There are so many different scenarios it will be interesting to see what happens, as I mentioned earlier I’m not convinced a prem side will spend £25 mil on him. - prem side pays less, maybe £15mil but we include add ons that hit 25mil+ - Scott starts to force move so we end up accepting offer lower than what we want - We play hard ball and refuse to lower asking price due to contract length - Lots of rumour all summer and he leaves towards the end of the window for an acceptable fee - No clubs prepared to come close to meeting asking price - Massive bidding war and ends up leaving for over asking price + add ons (wouldn’t that be nice!!!) either way I’m excited to see what happens, I trust Nigel and CEO to make the right decision for the football club. I think there is just too much interest and long enough on our contract with him that we can name our price within reason, prem clubs haven't been affected by the COVID conditions anywhere as much as the championship or lower, there is essentially already a bidding war going on through the press. I think there will be an early mover and he is going to go and it will be for more than £25m is my prediction but I know nothing other than the public domain information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pezo said: I think there is just too much interest and long enough on our contract with him that we can name our price within reason, prem clubs haven't been affected by the COVID conditions anywhere as much as the championship or lower, there is essentially already a bidding war going on through the press. I think there will be an early mover and he is going to go and it will be for more than £25m is my prediction but I know nothing other than the public domain information. Interesting, when was the last time a championship player left for £25mil+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Searles said: Interesting, when was the last time a championship player left for £25mil+? When was the last time a 19 year old was the outstanding player in the Championship? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, Searles said: Interesting, when was the last time a championship player left for £25mil+? 21/22 Aaron Ramsdale to arsenal for £28m and that's a goalkeeper, goalkeepers don't usually fetch a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: When was the last time a 19 year old was the outstanding player in the Championship? He hasn’t been the outstanding player in the championship. Also, to answer your question, Carvalho at Fulham. Liverpool signed him for £5mil. Edited April 14, 2023 by Searles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Pezo said: 21/22 Aaron Ramsdale to arsenal for £28m and that's a goalkeeper, goalkeepers don't usually fetch a premium. That was having played 40 games in the prem previously, so while you are correct, he was already a prem league number one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Searles said: That was having played 40 games in the prem previously, so while you are correct, he was already a prem league number one. Ok, to play by your rules Ollie Watkins went from Brentford as a championship team having never played prem football to villa in the prem for £34m in 20/21. That was at the age of 24, AS is 19 so can provide more value over the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Pezo said: Ok, to play by your rules Ollie Watkins went from Brentford as a championship team having never played prem football to villa in the prem for £34m in 20/21. That was at the age of 24, AS is 19 so can provide more value over the long term. A good example. Anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Searles said: He hasn’t been the outstanding player in the championship. Also, to answer your question, Carvalho at Fulham. Liverpool signed him for £5mil. Carvalho is not a good example. His contract was expiring and Liverpool paid £5m in lieu of a compensation payment. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Searles said: He hasn’t been the outstanding player in the championship. Also, to answer your question, Carvalho at Fulham. Liverpool signed him for £5mil. I think the majority feel he has, and not just City supporters. What were Carvalho's circumstances, contract length, buy out clauses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 There is little point in trying to find equivalent deals because the ‘ landscape ‘ changes so often. Is Scott as good as a goalkeeper that was sold in what will be two seasons ago? Any deal is dependent on availability and demand. Some years ago Teletubbies were in short supply before Christmas and were selling for way above retail price, I am not comparing Scott to TinkieWinkie, but illustrate the dynamics of pricing. We are in a strong negotiating position so can extract the maximum from rich Prem clubs and if they don’t accept our price , I am looking at you Wolves, then we keep the player and hope to have a promotion next season with him in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 Someone suggested on his thread in the Transfer Sub Forum, that maybe Man City might buy him and immediately loan him to Peps prodigy Vincent Kompany if he is still at Burnley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 If we sell AS, there I don't personally see the benefit of having him back on loan. I'd prefer we use the fee to rebuild the entire team of players that belong to us, and will carry us up the league. No point having AS on loan for a season and delaying the inevitable. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 minute ago, beaverface said: If we sell AS, there I don't personally see the benefit of having him back on loan. I'd prefer we use the fee to rebuild the entire team of players that belong to us, and will carry us up the league. No point having AS on loan for a season and delaying the inevitable. Yes I can’t see the point either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Searles said: He hasn’t been the outstanding player in the championship. Also, to answer your question, Carvalho at Fulham. Liverpool signed him for £5mil. Carvalho was out of contract, Scott has 2 years left on his, massive difference. Edited April 14, 2023 by Betty Swallocks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, beaverface said: If we sell AS, there I don't personally see the benefit of having him back on loan. I'd prefer we use the fee to rebuild the entire team of players that belong to us, and will carry us up the league. No point having AS on loan for a season and delaying the inevitable. Normally I’m not a fan of a buy and loan back transfer but if the club felt that they could use the transfer fee to improve other areas of the pitch whilst also having the belief that someone like Benarous will be ready to take over the Scott role in the team this time next year, then I could get on board with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think the majority feel he has, and not just City supporters. What were Carvalho's circumstances, contract length, buy out clauses? I think he has had an outstanding season - but he hasn’t necessarily been the stand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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