Mr Popodopolous Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 VAR implementation seems to be getting worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: VAR implementation seems to be getting worse. The default position appears to be how can we rule out this goal? Total madness. Hey, thank **** it's only used in the Prem. Edited September 18, 2023 by AppyDAZE 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Re red card, why not a penalty for holding in the area??? This is the question In the middle of the pitch it's a freekick, so in the area it *should* be a penalty. But there would also be 5 a game. But how do you give it?* Can't be just a pen, because then you're allowing Foster to get away with an elbow. Pen + yellow because its obviously frustration at a foul not being given, but is lenient to an elbow Pen + red for the team given the penalty seems counter intuitive, but is the right decision on both things individually. But doesn't account that the elbow doesn't happen if the pen is given for holding to start with *obviously not all cases would be the same, if someone turns around and does a Zidane it's very different to a flailing arm catching someone without intent. Will clarify, working in a bar at the moment so not had a clear view of the elbow, but was able to hear the commentary. Edited September 18, 2023 by transfer reader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, transfer reader said: This is the question In the middle of the pitch it's a freekick, so in the area it *should* be a penalty. But there would also be 5 a game. But how do you give it?* Can't be just a pen, because then you're allowing Foster to get away with an elbow. Pen + yellow because its obviously frustration at a foul not being given, but is lenient to an elbow Pen + red for the team given the penalty seems counter intuitive, but is the right decision on both things individually. But doesn't account that the elbow doesn't happen if the pen is given for holding to start with *obviously not all cases would be the same, if someone turns around and does a Zidane it's very different to a flailing arm catching someone without intent. I wasn’t watching that carefully, but was it an elbow or more of a shrugging off of a player holding him. I’d rather we see plethora given and players learn to defend properly. 5 a game would happen for 1 game week and then we’d see the quick learners versus to dumb! Pen + red I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: The default position appears to be how can we rule out this goal? Total madness. Hey, thank **** it's only used in the Prem. Trouble is it's likely to come to a ground near you soon. Hate everything about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I wasn’t watching that carefully, but was it an elbow or more of a shrugging off of a player holding him. I’d rather we see plethora given and players learn to defend properly. 5 a game would happen for 1 game week and then we’d see the quick learners versus to dumb! Pen + red I guess. Proper elbow, its a definite red, side on angle shows it better rather than front on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Lrrr said: Proper elbow, its a definite red, side on angle shows it better rather than front on Ta, penalty and red then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Re red card, why not a penalty for holding in the area??? Because the clampdown on holding at set pieces announced a few seasons back was quickly dropped as these things usually are. It seems referees are allowed to ignore the laws when it suits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, chinapig said: Because the clampdown on holding at set pieces announced a few seasons back was quickly dropped as these things usually are. It seems referees are allowed to ignore the laws when it suits them. Why wasn’t Stockley Park reminding the ref. It pisses me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Sorry I'm still not having that deliberate handball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Hudson-Odoi so close to joining us on loan under LJ. Up at Failand, passed his medical, then Chelsea called him back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 Football nowadays is far too analysed. Both on the pitch by the officials and by pundits, media etc etc A goal should only not stand if something clearly unfair has happened in the build up. Marginal offsides, someone breaking wind during the build up... **** off and please stop ruling out what fans want to see GOALS. People talk about the game going soft, and I totall agree. Tonight's TV game has been the perfect example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I wasn’t watching that carefully, but was it an elbow or more of a shrugging off of a player holding him. I’d rather we see plethora given and players learn to defend properly. 5 a game would happen for 1 game week and then we’d see the quick learners versus to dumb! Pen + red I guess. Hadn't seen it clearly myself until just now Was a proper elbow, so I'd say pen + red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Watching tonight's and thinking Norman would have received his marching orders in every single game Yes, football is still the greatest thing ever, but oh how I long for the days when it was a "man's game" ooohhh tin hat time! Edited September 18, 2023 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 As soon as seeing this thread was hot I fully assumed Han-Noah had come on for Burnley and scored with his first touch. Not in the squad as it turns out, but wouldn’t that have been vintage Bristol City? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I wasn’t watching that carefully, but was it an elbow or more of a shrugging off of a player holding him. I’d rather we see plethora given and players learn to defend properly. 5 a game would happen for 1 game week and then we’d see the quick learners versus to dumb! Pen + red I guess. I'd happily* see the 5 a game for a week or two or whatever it would take, but it would need all the officials to do it and I think its safe to say that would be very unlikely even if they were told to keep an eye on it. It's a bit like refs booking players delaying a freekick, or a wall not being far enough back. I can remember being at a Mangotsfield game about 15-20 years ago where the opposing team had 5 players booked at the same time for not going the full 10 yards back. However when they still refused the ref didn't give them second yellows for it because he knew he'd be abandoning the game. What started as strong refereeing ended with him almost putting himself into a corner of doing a last resort and getting the game abandoned. *I'm sure I'd grumble at the 3 we'd give away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Why wasn’t Stockley Park reminding the ref. It pisses me off. Because they don't want to make difficult decisions so they choose not to implement the laws. We know from Mike Dean that the VARs don't want to embarrass their mates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: As soon as seeing this thread was hot I fully assumed Han-Noah had come on for Burnley and scored with his first touch. Not in the squad as it turns out, but wouldn’t that have been vintage Bristol City? Not really, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted September 18, 2023 Report Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Hudson-Odoi so close to joining us on loan under LJ. Up at Failand, passed his medical, then Chelsea called him back. We were close to Nick Pope too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 19, 2023 Report Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 hours ago, GrahamC said: Not really, no. Ok Graham thanks for playing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 Han-Noah should be involved tonight in their cup game at Salford. A chance to shine, though he hasn’t played for over 4 months. They seem to have a big squad so may have to be patient for a PL appearance but it’s a long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: Han-Noah should be involved tonight in their cup game at Salford. A chance to shine, though he hasn’t played for over 4 months. They seem to have a big squad so may have to be patient for a PL appearance but it’s a long season. I’m not really sure why they signed him. He couldn’t hack it at Championship level so can’t imagine he will pull up any trees in the Premier League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 minute ago, pl00peh91 said: I’m not really sure why they signed him. He couldn’t hack it at Championship level so can’t imagine he will pull up any trees in the Premier League. He played 99 games at Championship level under the age of 21, he could definitely 'hack it'... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DaveF said: He played 99 games at Championship level under the age of 21, he could definitely 'hack it'... How many of those performances were actually effective though? Him and Adam Nagy were two of the most underwhelming midfield signings in recent memory. I know it’s controversial but I honestly felt he flattered to deceive most of the time. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: I’m not really sure why they signed him. He couldn’t hack it at Championship level so can’t imagine he will pull up any trees in the Premier League. This has all been done to death and is now quite boring, everyone has their own views, fine. Hopefully this thread is now just to see how he’s getting on for those who are interested. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 He's on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, DaveF said: He's on the bench. Pretty much his nailed on position whilst here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 Might actually get on the pitch given they are 0 - 3 up already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, ralphindevon said: This has all been done to death and is now quite boring, everyone has their own views, fine. Hopefully this thread is now just to see how he’s getting on for those who are interested. Don’t think unreasonable for people to continue to offer their opinions about him and his time here, however boring it is for others. If we could all have a veto over subjects we find boring there would be zero threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Don’t think unreasonable for people to continue to offer their opinions about him and his time here, however boring it is for others. If we could all have a veto over subjects we find boring there would be zero threads. But what is there new to say? If you want opinions of his time here then go look back at many thousands that have been posted. He’s gone, there’s nothing new to add surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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