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It's actually a very good sign that a lot of the forum have negative views on Steve Cotterill.  Both McIness and O'Driscoll were the fans choice.  Cotterill could be the perfect fit. Aside from the hmely west country accent he has a good eye for a player and has done well in the lower leagues with a limited budget and it's important to understand how impoverished Portsmouth were and factor that in. He's got a man management style that will bring out the best in the young players.  He's hard working, passionate about his job and likes to play an attacking pressing game. We might even see a winger or two.

 

Sure we would all love to be the Barcelona of the lower leagues (mind you Rovers trademarked that delusion!) and appoint some undiscovered spanish coaching genius who would replicate Swansea and have us in the Premier League with immediate back to back promotions.  Second best is getting someone who has the personality and drive to bring success and start off by ensuring we don't get relegated.

 

Yes, he's known for playing direct football but Rednapp sought him oyt and O'Driscoll was happy to coach for him so that suggests he is adaptable. It's more likely he is going to play a pressing high temp game that doesn't exclude our midfield and Orient haven't done too badly with that approach.

 

I know of few clubs who achieve success where there isn't that feeling of unity and good communications between the board and the manager.  With Cotterill's friendhsip with Howard Hughes, I mean keith Dawe , and a refreshingly honest, determined and enthusiastic approach that should endear himself with the Lansdowns, I reckon that also helps provide a better platform for a change of fortunes.

 

Ironically, the best situation might have been if Steve Cotterill had been brought in as manager and retained SO'd and Pemberton. We'd pretty much have the set up that saw Forest turn around results and performances.  That isn't going to happen with regard to So'd but Pemberton has a reputation for being a passing football type of coach and I guess one of the attractions of taking on Cotterill is that the suport staff are likely to be retained.

 

I reckon all fans are so beaten down by the  past few seasons and, it has to be said, a very decent man but with a downbeat approach in the form of Sean O'Driscoll hasn't helped.  Actually it's an ideal situation for Cotterill to come into as there is no air of expectation.  A few wins and steps up the table and there will be a different atmosphere and he'll be accepted.  I don't don't the press speculation that he is set to be appointed.  I've got a feeling he'll do well and work well embracing the five pillars so let's all get behind him.  A fair few might be pleasantly surprised. 

 

Fair shout to you, as you've managed to give a few positive points there.  Let's just hope that against most of our expectations, we do eventually get a manager who could possibly do a job for us.

 

I agree our powers for being optimistic have taken a massive hammering over the past two or three years, so let's just hope we do get something to give us all a lift.  :pray:  

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Cotterill would be a poor choice in my opinion. As a manager he's accomplished very little. He managed to have 3 consecutive lower mid table championship finishes with Burnley who after they got rid of him got promoted to the Premieship. After that he went to Notts County who were top of the table by miles when he joined in January, he then kept them going and got them promoted to L1. His only accomplishment of date, with a side he didn't build. 

He then didn't want to stay and build with Notts County, instead he jumped ship to Porstmouth for the following season where he never really accomplished a lot before he went to Nottingham Forest who flirted with relegation the whole time he was there until he kept them up towards the end of the season. He was then sacked following there takeover. He's not known for playing good football or using young players. Now is this really the man people want as the next Bristol City manager? Someone with no real League 1 experience, no real loyalty and no track record of building and blooding a side of young players.

 

A truly baffling decision if we appoint him.

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Cotterill would be a poor choice in my opinion. As a manager he's accomplished very little. He managed to have 3 consecutive lower mid table championship finishes with Burnley who after they got rid of him got promoted to the Premieship. After that he went to Notts County who were top of the table by miles when he joined in January, he then kept them going and got them promoted to L1. His only accomplishment of date, with a side he didn't build. 

He then didn't want to stay and build with Notts County, instead he jumped ship to Porstmouth for the following season where he never really accomplished a lot before he went to Nottingham Forest who flirted with relegation the whole time he was there until he kept them up towards the end of the season. He was then sacked following there takeover. He's not known for playing good football or using young players. Now is this really the man people want as the next Bristol City manager? Someone with no real League 1 experience, no real loyalty and no track record of building and blooding a side of young players.

 

A truly baffling decision if we appoint him.

 

More like a baffling post.  You've tried to make someone sound crap while inadvertently making them sound quite good and that's with conveniently ignoring what he did at Cheltenham too! 

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More like a baffling post.  You've tried to make someone sound crap while inadvertently making them sound quite good and that's with conveniently ignoring what he did at Cheltenham too! 

 How?

 

What he achieved at Cheltenham was years ago. I fail to see how I've made him look good? He got Notts County promoted with a team that wasn't his when they were already top of the table.

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Coterill bought in many of the players that Coyle used to get successful with Burnley. Some will argue, Cotterill got unlucky because of injuries, however he did manage to develop them  but did revert to Cotterball, when there was more options available

We are no longer in the Champs, so is largely an irrelevant discussion other than he has an eye for a player and can develop youth on that score

 

Notts County were in the midst of the Munto Catastrophe when Cotterill came in after Sven and he did well, also was in a worse sit at Pompey and managed to get them respectable

 

Florist were where they were because of take over Doughty's death and Mclaren's failure again Cotterill helped to steady the ship a little

Not saying he's great or nothing, but he can work, he can adapt and getting Cheltenham from Non League to this league is some achievement (something the GJ fans cream over regarding Yeovil, so how come Cotterill is different?)

 

He has a great track record of building youth, so not sure where that comes from

 

 

Fair point.  Doesn't show fantastic loyalty and Burnley was his only period of longevity. If he came in and kept us up then fair play but i'd always be concerned he'd be looking for a move elsewhere if something better came up

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Coterill bought in many of the players that Coyle used to get successful with Burnley. Some will argue, Cotterill got unlucky because of injuries, however he did manage to develop them  but did revert to Cotterball, when there was more options available

We are no longer in the Champs, so is largely an irrelevant discussion other than he has an eye for a player and can develop youth on that score

 

Notts County were in the midst of the Munto Catastrophe when Cotterill came in after Sven and he did well, also was in a worse sit at Pompey and managed to get them respectable

 

Florist were where they were because of take over Doughty's death and Mclaren's failure again Cotterill helped to steady the ship a little

Not saying he's great or nothing, but he can work, he can adapt and getting Cheltenham from Non League to this league is some achievement (something the GJ fans cream over regarding Yeovil, so how come Cotterill is different?)

 

He has a great track record of building youth, so not sure where that comes from

 

Does this all mean you will be in agreement with Cotterill's appointment?

It'll be the first time you've shown any snippet of support for any of our managers, so just checking.

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I think a minute silence thread would be an idea.

Does this mean you don't approve of Cotterill's appointment?

 

Just checking.  Wanna understand if you'll be jumping ship again in the near future, or are you going to get behind him?

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I really don't think it makes a blind bit of difference which manager the board brings in Harry.

 

I can't see there being any prolonged success with SL and this board in charge... too many issues.

 

We may stave off relegation... we may get relegated... but I can't see their ever being a long term strategy, only short term fix's...however much they say otherwise.

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No, but maybe there isn't another option? We're a poor league one side, Cotterill would say yes to the job but not many other credible managers would. 

 

Give him a chance if he comes in, although Lansdown said he wanted passion which I fail to see how Cotterill would offer that, which would mean yet another contradiction from the board, who in my eyes are the ones who should be getting slated, not Cotterill!  

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I've heard the same from well known poster on here.

I was told Holloway was interviewed as was Warnock but finances dictate neither are heading to BS3.

Hopefully, what I was told is incorrect but where there's smoke etc etc. I've nothing against SC but it's not a particularly inspiring appointment and we are a lower L1 club now. :sad26:

True about Holloway meeting the board. Friday afternoon to be correct

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I really don't think it makes a blind bit of difference which manager the board brings in Harry.

I can't see there being any prolonged success with SL and this board in charge... too many issues.

We may stave off relegation... we may get relegated... but I can't see their ever being a long term strategy, only short term fix's...however much they say otherwise.

Indeedy doody.

Hence I care not who comes in, as long as it is not Holloway.

It is just a never ending circle of hyperbole, hot air, bluster and lies.

I may get my passion back whem them pesky Lansdowns are long gone.

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I really don't think it makes a blind bit of difference which manager the board brings in Harry.

 

I can't see there being any prolonged success with SL and this board in charge... too many issues.

 

We may stave off relegation... we may get relegated... but I can't see their ever being a long term strategy, only short term fix's...however much they say otherwise.

 

There is a long term strategy.  SOD was not the long term strategy.  The new man has to fit in with the long term strategy.

 

 If I posted like you, I'd now go on a long rant about how people don't get it and how everyone who supports this club is so thick, but I won't.

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Do you believe everything you read, written and said by City?

 

Everything? No. Nothing?  No.  

 

However, it is pretty obvious from what's been written and said that all the background stuff (academy, youth development etc) is all still happening.  When I see Tinnion, Anton et al sacked I'll start panicking.

 

We're just changing manager not the strategy. 

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I know that... but you've missed the point... never mind.

 

You said:

 

 

 

but I can't see their ever being a long term strategy, only short term fix's

 

You know what?  Don't worry about it because you're clearly one of those people who are only ever right.

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TRL....I agree.

 

They may have plans in place, but those plans will not come into fruition because they ruffle too many feathers with coaches and managers. They make their lives intolerable.

 

What I heard recently about our new Spanish coach and a few nit picking issues the board had, I wouldn't be surprised if he went too.

 

They can't stop interfering and making big issues out of little problems that eventually become big problems... seems they can't help themselves and it usually all comes down to small spending issues... Coppell found this and now others are finding it.

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As I said to Aizoon on another thread, instead of casting aspertions, prove it. Cheers

Can't remember you castigating sod to be fair. All I see from you is telling the blunt truth which many don't want to see on the whole.
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Getting the feeling that our new man will be announced either tomorrow or Tuesday lunchtime, lets hope so ay, if it is Cotterill so be it, nothing worse for a manager than negativity from the fans straight from the appointment. 

 

Within the next few days, we'll have our new man, and lets hope for a successful new era!

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As I said to Aizoon on another thread, instead of casting aspertions, prove it. Cheers

Fair enough - I'm not bothered getting into a debate about it.

 

Simple question to you then sir ;

 

Are you in favour of Steve Cotterill being appointed?

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TRL....I agree.

 

They may have plans in place, but those plans will not come into fruition because they ruffle too many feathers with coaches and managers. They make their lives intolerable.

 

What I heard recently about our new Spanish coach and a few nit picking issues the board had, I wouldn't be surprised if he went too.

 

They can't stop interfering and making big issues out of little problems that eventually become big problems... seems they can't help themselves and it usually all comes down to small spending issues... Coppell found this and now others are finding it.

 

I agree with what you say there spudski, I have heard a few stories myself last week. It doesn't sound too good. The board and JL make things very difficult for those who are working for them if things are not going their way. This makes people want to leave. Any new manager would find this out very quickly. As a fan I'll back Cotterill or Warnock to come in. But their is no way I would back Holloway.

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Also heard today from a steward (no bull in a carvery shop that has friends at cheltenham who are still connected to the club) that the cotterill deal was done last night and will be announced tomorrow. Oh well, not my choice but the holloway haters will be happy I guess. It would seem that Mr H was never an option (or was he?) and I completely understand the background to Ollie with his MASSIVE rivary with our club, I still would have considered him regardless of the history.  

 

It appears that Mr Cotterill will be appointed tomorrow but for the laugh I ask you all a question - Who would be your choice Cotterill or Holloway ?

(the deal seems to be done so probably a pointless question),

 

:laugh:

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Also heard today from a steward (no bull in a carvery shop that has friends at cheltenham who are still connected to the club) that the cotterill deal was done last night and will be announced tomorrow. Oh well, not my choice but the holloway haters will be happy I guess. It would seem that Mr H was never an option (or was he?) and I completely understand the background to Ollie with his MASSIVE rivary with our club, I still would have considered him regardless of the history.

It appears that Mr Cotterill will be appointed tomorrow but for the laugh I ask you all a question - Who would be your choice Cotterill or Holloway ?

(the deal seems to be done so probably a pointless question),

:laugh:

Cotterill clearly. I have no qualms Cotterill can do a good job results wise. If he gets it good luck to him. Can't say I will be looking forward to the football on show. That said the football on show hasn't been great since Wilson left (visually).
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My nephew is a Burnley ST holder, when I txt him and that Cotterill was favourite for our job, his reply was "oh dear god"!!!!!!

I asked him what he was like at Burnley, his reply was, "boring football,take a one nil lead,get everyone behind the ball and pump it up the channels"

That's from someone who saw 3-4 seasons of Cotterill,

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Supposing, just supposing, the deal has been done to bring Cotterill here as numerous people are saying they are hearing. From past experience our next manager been pretty much common knowledge before its announced, so people do have sources of info. From what I am reading he is likely to be one of the least popular choices ever, not a good starting point for anyone. So, if there are board members reading this will it make any difference, can they turn round to him and say thanks but no thanks? I guess until any contract is legally signed they can, but if so what a mess?

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Wheres the emoticon for someone shrugging there shoulders in a manner of dejected citywho realises that the sacking of sod does not herald a golden dawn

 

smdh.gif

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Also heard today from a steward (no bull in a carvery shop that has friends at cheltenham who are still connected to the club) that the cotterill deal was done last night and will be announced tomorrow. Oh well, not my choice but the holloway haters will be happy I guess. It would seem that Mr H was never an option (or was he?) and I completely understand the background to Ollie with his MASSIVE rivary with our club, I still would have considered him regardless of the history.

It appears that Mr Cotterill will be appointed tomorrow but for the laugh I ask you all a question - Who would be your choice Cotterill or Holloway ?

(the deal seems to be done so probably a pointless question),

:laugh:

If you look at the poll at the top of this thread not 1 ****** bloke wants cotterill at this club.... So what does our shitty club do.... I've personally messaged JL on twitter to tell him exactly what I think about this situation...

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If you look at the poll at the top of this thread not 1 ****** bloke wants cotterill at this club.... So what does our shitty club do.... I've personally messaged JL on twitter to tell him exactly what I think about this situation...

My mistake... Steve cotterill's just voted for himself....

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It's a well known and popular fact that only Gasheads drink tea :grr:

How very dare you!...

...Britain was built on tea...

...are you old enough to remember Hedgehog flavoured crisps?...

...I am...

...they were an invention of the Gypsy community...

...I therefore put it to you sir that only Gasheads keep hedgehogs.

:-p

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How very dare you!...

...Britain was built on tea...

...are you old enough to remember Hedgehog flavoured crisps?...

...I am...

...they were an invention of the Gypsy community...

...I therefore put it to you sir that only Gasheads keep hedgehogs.

:-p

No. Only Gasheads eat hegehogs.

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From last weeks S****horpe Telegraph.

But the odds on ex-Cheltenham Town manager Steve Cotterill taking the top job at Glanford Park have shortened to 5/1

Read more: http://www.s****horpetelegraph.co.uk/Odds-shorten-Steve-Cotterill-S****horpe-United/story-20117202-detail/story.html#ixzz2mG9Hd5bS

Did our board panic and think S****horpe may get there man instead of us!

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Neither here nor there, see what happens should he get appointed. I have no strong feelings either way

Your earlier post seemed incredibly complimentary.  More complimentary than anything of yours I can recall reading toward anyone previously employed by BCFC as top man.

That's ok though, you just sit on the fence.  In fact, I think I'm gonna start to call you Mr Creosote.

 

mr-creosote.jpg

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Is that the same Dean Saunders that last season after relegation had Doncaster top of league one before going to Wolves?

He had much the same job at Doncaster as SOD Had here, clearing out the crap (and failed experiments) and was more successful on a smaller budget.

It's all too easy to reject every manager available but some have had some success in this league.

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I do not claim to know much about COTTERILL but seems a lot of false, misleading information, is appearing within the forum.  He is held in good regard by Notts County AND Forest, and kept them up when they were in a state.  he is still a legend in Cheltenham, so IF he is appointed, he must be given a chance.  His time at pompey was under different administrators when they were sinking faster than the Titanic !

 

Heres a wee bit of proof about that and his sacking at Forest !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18812339

 

I spoke to a mate today who lives just outside Nottingham and he has strong connections in the game.  Cotterill is well thought off in many circles and he has no doubt he would do a job for us.

 

Of course, it might all be pie in the sky yet !

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This is from a football reporter for the Daily Telegraph this morning...

@John__Percy: Steve Cotterill set to be named as new Bristol City manager in the next 48 hours #bcfc #nffc

 

**** John Percy is always 100% right with his info, broke the SOD news too :(

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Please God no!

Time people started getting used to this, I think.  Cotterill makes sense, as we are asking someone to step in as first team coach and work with existing staff.  I can't see Warnock or Holloway being prepared to do that, and of course the fact that Cotterill and O'Driscoll worked together before suggests that the change can be made without a major culture shift.  We'll see.

 

Whoever is appointed deserves a chance, and deserves our full support. 

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I'm waiting for Ali Duden to post something, when he does it's the real deal. Quiet since Nov 29th though.

EDIT ; Just saw tweet from our old friend Stockhausen, posted 5 mins ago ' I suspect Steve Cotterill will be unveiled as Bristol City head coach by Wednesday at the latest!'

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Lew-T posted this in another thread, I thought I would put all media reports here for now.

This is from a football reporter for the Daily Telegraph this morning...

@John__Percy: Steve Cotterill set to be named as new Bristol City manager in the next 48 hours #bcfc #nffc

I saw this:

Just saw tweet from our old friend Stockhausen, posted 5 mins ago ' I suspect Steve Cotterill will be unveiled as Bristol City head coach by Wednesday at the latest!'

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