Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Don't forget taking cheltenham from the conference and establishing them as a legue one/two yoyo club Is that our future ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 11 yes,s 143 no,s Like it or not City board that is a rather convincing "up yours" shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Be nice to have a Bristol City manager with a south west accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz897 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Inter Milan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Be nice to have a Bristol City manager with a south west accent. Welcome Bristol City y'wall. Have a nice day, folks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinredrobin Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I have no particular desire to see Cotterill as manager ....but if you examine his managerial career and take the average amount of points he's taken from the games he's managed he has taken 51.1% of the points available : 243 wins 187 draws out of 597 games so i'd be happy if he got 51.1% out of a 46 match season - because thats 70 points I'd settle for that tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I have no particular desire to see Cotterill as manager ....but if you examine his managerial career and take the average amount of points he's taken from the games he's managed he has taken 51.1% of the points available : 243 wins 187 draws out of 597 games so i'd be happy if he got 51.1% out of a 46 match season - because thats 70 points I'd settle for that tbh What makes me think that these people who produce reams of statistics don't watch the football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Singular managers for the long term, is something that is no longer a part of the system for us and many other clubs here or abroad. It's no longer about a one man dynasty, it's about getting the best staff into do whatever job is required of them. If they do that then fine, if they dont do that then they are replaced by some one who potentially can Inter Milan for example are on their 5th manager/coach since Benitez was in charge in Dec 2010 they've finished 2nd 6th and 9th before as funds diminished and will see how they do after this new take over sorts itself out. They are currently 4th in the league Couldn't agree less. Unless you are a super club with massive funds at your disposal (ie man city, real madrid etc) then you can't possibly hope to bring stability and long term growth to a club by chopping and changing managers everytime things get tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz897 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 . how can the fans be expected to back a man they deep down expect to be gone next year Because you support BCFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 That sounds like long term the way city's been sacking managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Really? Why do you think that? Why do massive funds mean that this is suddenly possible over what we are currently doing now? Same principles in essence, so why does cash mean it works or it doesnt? Because it's a lot easier at a club with big cash who can attract big players for a manager to be successful in a short stint. Hence being able to cite examples of a club which chops and changes manager a lot and is still very successful ie Chelsea, Man C, Madrid How many non world class teams can you name who have enjoyed big success whilst going through 7/8 managers every 3-4 years? Not a dig at you by the way, just can't think of many teams of our stature who have got success whilst going through managers at a rate of knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardob59 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 News flash; OTIB goes into meltdown because a few fans full of their own self importance don't like the choice of new manager. Get over it and back whoever it is. Interesting comments..... And obviously you hold yourself in higher esteem..? Does not every fan have the right to be concerned or even voice an opinion on a forum..? I will back whoever the Manager is, but when anyone feels that a pending appointment is a concern then we have the right to question. The club I am sure will address many concerns when the appointment is made. If it is to be SC then are you not in the slightest concerned that we will be appointing someone who at Florist asked SOD to support him.. And here we are doing the exactly the same thing in reverse..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Long term? In the last 4 years Cotterill has managed 3 teams and been part of the coaching team at QPR. He has managed at Notts County, Portsmouth and Nottingham Forest an average of 38 game tenure. In addition to this he instantly resigned from Stoke when offered a lucrative chance as Sunderland's assistant. Doesn't seem the most committed person to any cause. Mr J Lansdown explained he wanted someone to buy into the club after Sean O'Driscoll left. One of our pillars, which I have no problem with infact I think it's good to have goals, is Financial Control.In terms of managers that means to have one for the long term and one that is successful so we don't have to fire them and more importantly pay them compensation come this part of the season. Doesn't seem the correct fit, need someone exciting at this club that will lift fans morale as well as player morale and more importantly fire us up the table. I'm sure that was exactly what they had in mind with SO'D - they weren't to know he'd be so awful. We needed to replace him and Cotterill, if appointed, may or may not turn out to be the right fit. You appoint who you feel is the best man for the job but there is always the chance with anyone that they fail to live up to expectations. As SO'D so amply proved with his disastrous tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 He ran out on Cheltenham before they played a single game at level 3 ! went to stoke where he lasted 13 games, Cheltenham have had a total of 3 seasons at level 3, _ hardly a yo yo club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 No manager these days is going to stay long term that's the past now. What's best long term for bristol city is staying in this league and not getting relegated. If Cotterill keeps us up he has done a good job. If he can push on from that and get us promoted he will have done an excellent job. Look at Southampton, Swansea and Norwich all been where we are appointed someone (in Swanseas case a number of managers) to sort it out and kicked on from there and have ended up in the premiership and all of whom no longer have the man they appointed back then but are in a much better positions. I doubt we will get to where we want to be with one manager. If he doesn't get there he will be sacked or if he is doing well he's likely to get poached from someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul_Trader Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I wanted McInnes. He was shit. I wanted SOD. He was shit. I don't want Cotterill... This ..... well I did want McInnes ... I did want SOD. I don't have strong feeling on Cotterill .... I wouldn't say I want him But then if you pushed me .... I couldn't give you the name of a manager I do want .... So Cotterill would be OK in so much as : - He is not from the blue side - He might be the shot in the arm the team needs to start collecting points. As I do not run the club and I was all for previous (less successful) managers. I will wait and see what unfolds. Who knows, maybe the high turnover of managers is a good thing? With so much practise at interviewing managers. Maybe the board will get it right this time? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Singular managers for the long term, is something that is no longer a part of the system for us and many other clubs here or abroad. It's no longer about a one man dynasty, it's about getting the best staff into do whatever job is requiredi of them. If they do that then fine, if they dont do that then they are replaced by some one who potentially can Inter Milan for example are on their 5th manager/coach since Benitez was in charge in Dec 2010 they've finished 2nd 6th and 9th before as funds diminished and will see how they do after this new take over sorts itself out. They are currently 4th in the league I'm not sure that Using Inter as an example makes your point. Quite the opposite! 2004 to 2010 they had just two managers, and they won the league 5 years in a row! It's only since they started chopping and changing managers that they've been finishing lower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofthestand Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sometimes even managers with the best CVs in the world go to a club and it just doesn't work out for them. Other times managers with average CVs do well at a club just look at Slade and Leyton Orient. At the end of the day no one knows how's he is going to do let's just give him a bit of time get behind the lads and hope he can do a good job here. couldn't agree more. Look no further than the current England manager, didn't work out for him at Liverpool but was great at Fulham and West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 11 yes,s 143 no,s Like it or not City board that is a rather convincing "up yours" shout Maybe, but those 143 would probably be split between half a dozen other candidates between them. If it's not to be Warnock or Holloway, who would be your choice Arn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'm not sure that Using Inter as an example makes your point. Quite the opposite! 2004 to 2010 they had just two managers, and they won the league 5 years in a row! It's only since they started chopping and changing managers that they've been finishing lower! isn't that more to do with tha massive match fixing scandles and juventus being thrown out of the league during that period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sadly not, I've looked high and low but to no avail. The scratch and sniff version was what I was really after. You'll just have to make do with some of the other furry axe wounds that frequent this board! You've completely lost me there, riley. Some more of your rough-house, B Block, working man's talk there. It's too late, anyhow; the Lady's back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Sadly not, I've looked high and low but to no avail. The scratch and sniff version was what I was really after. You'll just have to make do with some of the other furry axe wounds that frequent this board! Oh, and we're all in this together, remember. No one opinion is any more valid or relevant than mine. Together, and united. Thank Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 isn't that more to do with tha massive match fixing scandles and juventus being thrown out of the league during that period? Juventus - that helped. But wrong to imply that Inter won those titles because of match fixing, and even without Juve it's still a pretty consistent and successful record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksred Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill is now favourite for the Wednesday job as well at 2/1. Not set in stone yet...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 My dad says if Bristol City don't drink their milk they'll only be good enough to have steve Cotterill as their manager. Who's Steve Cotterill? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Juventus - that helped. But wrong to imply that Inter won those titles because of match fixing, and even without Juve it's still a pretty consistent and successful record. Can't say I'm a expert on italian football so was just asking the question, Milan always have had a decent team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Welcome Bristol City y'wall. Have a nice day, folks... Westcountry not Texan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_30 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Steve Cotterill now the new 2/1 favourite to be new Sheffield Wednesday manager. Not sure this is all sewn up yet. League 1 or Championship I know which one i'd choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_30 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill now 2/1 favourite to be Sheffield Wednesday manager. Not sure its signed sealed delivered yet! Or am I clutching straws?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill now 2/1 favourite to be Sheffield Wednesday manager. Not sure its signed sealed delivered yet! Or am I clutching straws?! Read that Cotterill was told "job was his" at Sheffield Weds before Jones went a few weeks back... I hope so! Price shooting down for him too at Sheffield Weds.. You would assume he'd choose them over us.. (I hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.