Major Isewater Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 To be fair Cotterill was tasked with keeping Forest up.. He went there realised they obviously needed some technical coaching so got an out of work O'driscal to come in as help. Surely that was good management from Cotterill? Everyone seems to use this as an excuse to beat him with. Here at City SOD had full control over the squad and look where that's got us. At Forest he came in as a coach under Cotterill who would have had complete control over the Forest squad. See the difference. Its not like he went to SOD and then SOD came in and took over. Perhaps in hindsight we should of originally got Cotterill and SOD as his assistant. I have always thought SOD was the right man at the wrong time, should have came in after Johnson where at least the purse was still open and maybe instead of nicky hunt we would have had billy sharpe (SOD has said he inquired about him). Pat Poor signings have not helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 To be fair it sounds like frying pan in to the fire with this name? a man who asked SOD for help at forest? Yes, to me it's like we are at a crossroads and have to choose the right road and by choosing Cotterill we will just be looping around and doubling back on ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Warnock would certainly have been interesting 'til the end of the season. But what I was asking is if it's not going to be Warnock or Holloway, then who would you go for? With the choice of what was left? "Our Mum" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 To expand slightly. We're not going to get a class manager - we can't afford one and no one's going to see this as a glorious opportunity.If we are going to get a third-rater, let's not start with one who will alienate a significant number of fans. this forum doesn't represent a signifficant number of fans it probbaly on par with 2% of our fan base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thoughts on Big Joe, Arn? Worth a phone call see if he can help out till the end of the season or maybe beyond, must have learned a thing or two with harry and knows the youth systems since being at spurs? coaching the likes of Gareth bale I would pick him up from where ever. Now were talking. A man of vast experience, a man in the know and very much a leader. Take him in a shot Sean. Then i just read that Cotterill is now 1/8 on with Stan James (uugghhh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 this forum doesn't represent a signifficant number of fans it probbaly on par with 2% of our fan base That's less than the %age pollsters use to accurately predict elections. There's no reason to suppose that OTIB is significantly different than the mass of City's support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I would pick him up from whereever. Now were talking. A man of vast experience, a man in the know and very much a leader. Take him in a shot Sean Agreed, if we are going after a 40 mill revamp of AG then at least have a decent manager in charge to go with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 That's less than the %age pollsters use to accurately predict elections. There's no reason to suppose that OTIB is significantly different than the mass of City's support. I've been told plenty of time in the past it doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I've been told plenty of time in the past it doesnt Ah, but were the people who told you representative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 That's less than the %age pollsters use to accurately predict elections. There's no reason to suppose that OTIB is significantly different than the mass of City's support. Except the polling sample is selected from a truly representative cross section, not a self selected group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Agreed, if we are going after a 40 mill revamp of AG then at least have a decent manager in charge to go with it Exactly mate, but he would stand up to the board unlike a "Yes" man like Cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Except the polling sample is selected from a truly representative cross section, not a self selected group. Yes. That was the point of my second sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thoughts on Big Joe, Arn? Worth a phone call see if he can help out till the end of the season or maybe beyond, must have learned a thing or two with harry and knows the youth systems since being at spurs? coaching the likes of Gareth bale Joe Jordan. Fantastic shout! Get him in JL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'll be honest I don't want him here, he has always came across in interviews as a complete tosser as far as I'm concerned (get ready for every defeat being the fault of missing a thousand chances and the referee having a stinker) and I would much, much rather SO'D was still here than we'd sacked him and are set to appoint Cotterill. However I can't get as angry about his appointment as others seem to be. As I said, he isn't someone I'd ideally want as our manager, but once we'd decided to sack SO'D (wrongly in my eyes) out of all the people we could realistically attract to come and manage a team bottom of League 1, and having been in free fall for longer than any of us care to remember, he is a long way from being the worst. Personally I couldn't find one name on the list that I wanted so it isn't even as if I can feel gutted on missing out on someone else. Will he do a good job for us? I have big, big doubts, but who knows. In the short term he may make us slightly more difficult to beat and a bit nastier to play against (although difficult with the players we have) and that could be what we need from here until the end of the season. Anyway as ever (unless it was Holloway) once he is appointed I will put my reservations on the back burner and get behind him 100%. They seem to want to make it as hard as possible to do so, but this club needs our support more right now than it has done in a long time. A long, long way away from 'In Cotterill I trust', but certainly 'In Cotterill I'll support'. After all, what other choice do we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Why do people get so tied into the betting numbers? Just some punters who know just as much as me and you guessing who the manager might be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'll be honest I don't want him here, he has always came across in interviews as a complete tosser as far as I'm concerned (get ready for every defeat being the fault of missing a thousand chances and the referee having a stinker) and I would much, much rather SO'D was still here than we'd sacked him and are set to appoint Cotterill.However I can't get as angry about his appointment as others seem to be. As I said, he isn't someone I'd ideally want as our manager, but once we'd decided to sack SO'D (wrongly in my eyes) out of all the people we could realistically attract to come and manage a team bottom of League 1, and having been in free fall for longer than any of us care to remember, he is a long way from being the worst. Personally I couldn't find one name on the list that I wanted so it isn't even as if I can feel gutted on missing out on someone else.Will he do a good job for us? I have big, big doubts, but who knows. In the short term he may make us slightly more difficult to beat and a bit nastier to play against (although difficult with the players we have) and that could be what we need from here until the end of the season.Anyway as ever (unless it was Holloway) once he is appointed I will put my reservations on the back burner and get behind him 100%. They seem to want to make it as hard as possible to do so, but this club needs our support more right now than it has done in a long time. A long, long way away from 'In Cotterill I trust', but certainly 'In Cotterill I'll support'. After all, what other choice do we have? What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I have always thought SOD was the right man at the wrong time, should have came in after Johnson where at least the purse was still open and maybe instead of nicky hunt we would have had billy sharpe (SOD has said he inquired about him). Pat Poor signings have not helped Yes may have been very different around that time. Wasn't his stock incredably high then though? Always remember him turning down Burnley in the prem (bet he regrets that) He would of probably turned us down aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'll be honest I don't want him here, he has always came across in interviews as a complete tosser as far as I'm concerned (get ready for every defeat being the fault of missing a thousand chances and the referee having a stinker) and I would much, much rather SO'D was still here than we'd sacked him and are set to appoint Cotterill. However I can't get as angry about his appointment as others seem to be. As I said, he isn't someone I'd ideally want as our manager, but once we'd decided to sack SO'D (wrongly in my eyes) out of all the people we could realistically attract to come and manage a team bottom of League 1, and having been in free fall for longer than any of us care to remember, he is a long way from being the worst. Personally I couldn't find one name on the list that I wanted so it isn't even as if I can feel gutted on missing out on someone else. Will he do a good job for us? I have big, big doubts, but who knows. In the short term he may make us slightly more difficult to beat and a bit nastier to play against (although difficult with the players we have) and that could be what we need from here until the end of the season. Anyway as ever (unless it was Holloway) once he is appointed I will put my reservations on the back burner and get behind him 100%. They seem to want to make it as hard as possible to do so, but this club needs our support more right now than it has done in a long time. A long, long way away from 'In Cotterill I trust', but certainly 'In Cotterill I'll support'. After all, what other choice do we have? One tiny little edit but bearded red has hit the nail on the head for me. Good post sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Want to take the club forward Mr Lansdown? Go with a proven manager, and a manager who has experience. We can't afford to take risks anymore, time is not on our side. This appointment, has to be spot on, or we will see the consequences. Please stop talking "sense" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'll be honest I don't want him here, he has always came across in interviews as a complete tosser as far as I'm concerned (get ready for every defeat being the fault of missing a thousand chances and the referee having a stinker) and I would much, much rather SO'D was still here than we'd sacked him and are set to appoint Cotterill.However I can't get as angry about his appointment as others seem to be. As I said, he isn't someone I'd ideally want as our manager, but once we'd decided to sack SO'D (wrongly in my eyes) out of all the people we could realistically attract to come and manage a team bottom of League 1, and having been in free fall for longer than any of us care to remember, he is a long way from being the worst. Personally I couldn't find one name on the list that I wanted so it isn't even as if I can feel gutted on missing out on someone else.Will he do a good job for us? I have big, big doubts, but who knows. In the short term he may make us slightly more difficult to beat and a bit nastier to play against (although difficult with the players we have) and that could be what we need from here until the end of the season.Anyway as ever (unless it was Holloway) once he is appointed I will put my reservations on the back burner and get behind him 100%. They seem to want to make it as hard as possible to do so, but this club needs our support more right now than it has done in a long time. A long, long way away from 'In Cotterill I trust', but certainly 'In Cotterill I'll support'. After all, what other choice do we have? Literally agree with every word of that mate. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thank God...that Wednesday have sacked Dave Jones..........hopefully in the nick of time they will snatch Cotterill away and appoint him as their new manager. I cannot think of a manager (No! Not even Holloway) who I would least like as manager of Bristol City......Cotterill makes Ronald Mcdonald look cool, and has done nothing in his career of any note since 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thank God...that Wednesday have sacked Dave Jones..........hopefully in the nick of time they will snatch Cotterill away and appoint him as their new manager. I cannot think of a manager who I would least like as manager of Bristol City......Cotterill makes Ronald Mcdonald look cool, and has done nothing in his career of any note since 1993. Appleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 A lot depends on how much SL is willing to pay a new manager and how long a contract. If word on the street is to be believed, neither Holloway or Warnock would come here, as the financial package isn't enough. A cheap option is on the cards again I think. Cotterill fits the bill for this as far as I can see. Feel sorry for the poor bugger tbh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill now 1/10 on skybet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 A lot depends on how much SL is willing to pay a new manager and how long a contract. If word on the street is to be believed, neither Holloway or Warnock would come here, as the financial package isn't enough. A cheap option is on the cards again I think. Cotterill fits the bill for this as far as I can see. Feel sorry for the poor bugger tbh... Why? Its not being forced on him. If he knows whats good for him he will turn it down, if offered, and do us all a favour including himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I'll be honest I don't want him here, he has always came across in interviews as a complete tosser as far as I'm concerned (get ready for every defeat being the fault of missing a thousand chances and the referee having a stinker) and I would much, much rather SO'D was still here than we'd sacked him and are set to appoint Cotterill. However I can't get as angry about his appointment as others seem to be. As I said, he isn't someone I'd ideally want as our manager, but once we'd decided to sack SO'D (wrongly in my eyes) out of all the people we could realistically attract to come and manage a team bottom of League 1, and having been in free fall for longer than any of us care to remember, he is a long way from being the worst. Personally I couldn't find one name on the list that I wanted so it isn't even as if I can feel gutted on missing out on someone else. Will he do a good job for us? I have big, big doubts, but who knows. In the short term he may make us slightly more difficult to beat and a bit nastier to play against (although difficult with the players we have) and that could be what we need from here until the end of the season. Anyway as ever (unless it was Holloway) once he is appointed I will put my reservations on the back burner and get behind him 100%. They seem to want to make it as hard as possible to do so, but this club needs our support more right now than it has done in a long time. A long, long way away from 'In Cotterill I trust', but certainly 'In Cotterill I'll support'. After all, what other choice do we have? That may be fair criticism of Cotterill, but in terms of referee blaming he is nothing in comparison to Colin or Hollowhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cotterill now 1/10 on skybet Yes, just noticed that. Odds just shifted massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Don't have a clue how odds work, does 1/10 mean he isn't favourite anymore? Bloody confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Don't have a clue how odds work, does 1/10 mean he isn't favourite anymore? Bloody confusing. I'm not that clued up on odds but I know it means he's the overwhelming favourite for the job now. All others have suddenly drifted to 14/1 + ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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