spudski Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I have read two quite compelling books about whether Christ actually existed. There is no evidence of his existence outside of the bible and first parts of the New Testament to appear were written at least 70 years after the time. There were at least 6 prophets that were making claims to be the Son of God around the time, the one with the biggest following was John the Baptist, who actually did exist. It's suggested in these books that the story of Jesus being annointed by him, and by dint passing on the mantle, was a political move to sideline his followers who were growing in numbers. There is a Jesus mentioned in Roman writings, but the timelines don't fit and there is no mention of Nazareth, Bethlehem or Galilee in any of the writings. The biggest mystery is why the Christian faith chose this story above all the others, also why they decided to use the four gospels they did out of the hundred or so written, to go into the bible especially when those books all contradict eachother. Sorry to hijack the thread, looking at this I think we could have a good discussion on a new one. The Romans changed their whole religion and became Christians. They also changed the calender. AD and BC. It's obvious he existed. Whether in the form believed is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, spudski said: The Romans changed their whole religion and became Christians. They also changed the calender. AD and BC. It's obvious he existed. Whether in the form believed is another matter. I am of the opinion that the figure of Christ is a cypher for all the stories about other prophets. If you look at the stories chosen by the early church it's pretty clear they are the ones that most closely match the prophecies in the Old Testament that were supposed to identify the messiah. Constantine made a unilateral decision to change the Roman religion, obviously influenced by the strong following that was emerging. This was of course around 280 years after the period that Jesus was supposed to have been active, I don't think it's obvious he existed at all, but faith has never required facts so it really doesn't matter now as almost all aspects of history have been influenced by the idea that he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I am of the opinion that the figure of Christ is a cypher for all the stories about other prophets. If you look at the stories chosen by the early church it's pretty clear they are the ones that most closely match the prophecies in the Old Testament that were supposed to identify the messiah. Constantine made a unilateral decision to change the Roman religion, obviously influenced by the strong following that was emerging. This was of course around 280 years after the period that Jesus was supposed to have been active, I don't think it's obvious he existed at all, but faith has never required facts so it really doesn't matter now as almost all aspects of history have been influenced by the idea that he did. I tend to look at historical writings rather than what the church says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 People in shops wiring wireless headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 45 minutes ago, spudski said: I tend to look at historical writings rather than what the church says. I read The Sun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchy Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 18 hours ago, Major Isewater said: And then accuse you of ‘ walking on their heels ‘ . There is nothing worse than being a fast walker trying to get around someone, but they then to proceed to walk in front of you as if there seeing a ball out for a goal kick. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BanburyRed said: People in shops wiring wireless headphones. In a similar theme, people wearing headphones and talking out loud on their phones in public. They don’t realise they are shouting their mundane conversations to the whole world. It seems compulsory that people do this in London railway stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, BanburyRed said: People in shops wiring wireless headphones. How does this affect anyone else negatively? 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: In a similar theme, people wearing headphones and talking out loud on their phones in public. They don’t realise they are shouting their mundane conversations to the whole world. It seems compulsory that people do this in London railway stations. I'm intrigued how one is supposed to have a conversation on their phone in any other way than "out loud"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: I'm intrigued how one is supposed to have a conversation on their phone in any other way than "out loud"... I tend to hold the phone to my ear and thereby the mouthpiece is actually near my mouth, obliviating the need to do a "Dom Joly". I'm talking about those people who either talk into a phone held in front of them on speaker or have a headset and look like they are babbling to themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: How does this affect anyone else negatively? I'm intrigued how one is supposed to have a conversation on their phone in any other way than "out loud"... While they're wandering about the shop - probably not much, apart from it being a bit odd that they seem to want the world to know what they're having for dinner. But where I'm 100% with @BanburyRed on this is what happens when they get to the checkout. And simply carry on the conversation, completely ignoring the cashier who's serving them. That, to me, is the height of rudeness, and is definitely in my room 101 list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, italian dave said: That, to me, is the height of rudeness, Sorry was on my phone. What is the height of rudeness ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: I tend to hold the phone to my ear and thereby the mouthpiece is actually near my mouth, obliviating the need to do a "Dom Joly". I'm talking about those people who either talk into a phone held in front of them on speaker or have a headset and look like they are babbling to themselves. Apparently every call has to be a video call and if your unfortunate enough to look at them then it's "What you looking at, **** off!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 Always remember being in a pub several years ago (The Yeoman), young chap had a loud ring tone kept going off every five minutes, one of the regulars got up after it went off for about the tenth time, grabbed the phone and dropped it in chaps pint, wonderful moment. They should make the top deck if a bus a quiet zone to stop this idiocy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Two words... Claudia Winkleman Edited December 31, 2023 by AppyDAZE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 The word "control" in any football context. It simply never ends well. Now it's in OTIB 101, i will never speak about it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 When the press say someone is going to Jail. It's Prison in this country When people say "Proof of the Pudding" drives me mad because it is "The proof of the Pudding is in the eating" Macaroni cheese has become Mac and Cheese. People who call the month February Febree drives me insane. Swansea and Cardiff shirts in JD sports at Bristol Airport. And Wayne Mardle! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) On 30/12/2023 at 23:50, Ronnie Sinclair said: Black electric scooters ANY and the ***** ( rhymes with brats) perched on top of them. Edited January 1 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Sorry I forgot one that drives me mad. People who wear Shorts in the freezing cold weather trying to prove they are hard! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Barry Sheene said: Sorry I forgot one that drives me mad. People who wear Shorts in the freezing cold weather trying to prove they are hard! Agreed, and... Blokes' legs summer or winter. Put it a f ing way! Vile, don't want it, pal cover up. Edited January 1 by AppyDAZE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 On 31/12/2023 at 12:12, Portchy said: There is nothing worse than being a fast walker trying to get around someone, but they then to proceed to walk in front of you as if there seeing a ball out for a goal kick. ‘Hack ‘em down ‘ I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 17 hours ago, Barry Sheene said: When the press say someone is going to Jail. It's Prison in this country When people say "Proof of the Pudding" drives me mad because it is "The proof of the Pudding is in the eating" Macaroni cheese has become Mac and Cheese. People who call the month February Febree drives me insane. Swansea and Cardiff shirts in JD sports at Bristol Airport. And Wayne Mardle! Or gaol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 18 hours ago, Barry Sheene said: When the press say someone is going to Jail. It's Prison in this country. Macaroni cheese has become Mac and Cheese. What about train stations? And, one of @Fordy62’s pet hates, when a newspaper article refers to ‘The Cops’ investigating a crime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Loud car exhausts that sound like they've got a hole in them. and they zoom down your road at ungodly hours waking the street up in the process. Used to be the remit of young drivers / boy racers, yet the bloke round here who's got one of said exhausts on his signal yellow Focus must be in his mid-40s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Seeing players disembarking the bus wearing headphones or earpieces. To me that’s sending out a ‘keep away”’ message to any fans that might be waiting for autographs. I really don’t like to see it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 20 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Agreed, and... Blokes' legs summer or winter. Put it a f ing way! Vile, don't want it, pal cover up. Watching football must be tough for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Watching football must be tough for you. I'm a the back of the Dolman, I'm safe up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Loud car exhausts that sound like they've got a hole in them. and they zoom down your road at ungodly hours waking the street up in the process. Used to be the remit of young drivers / boy racers, yet the bloke round here who's got one of said exhausts on his signal yellow Focus must be in his mid-40s Guy across the road has use of a Tesla which is either silent going forwards or sounds like an old milk float when reversing! His other car a TVR appears occaisionaly and must need tuning as he sit on the drive revving noisily for 5 minutes before leaving and after returning home! Must be a cry for attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: I'm a the back of the Dolman, I'm safe up there. That's what you think Chunky Trunks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 People who put there bins out 2 days before the collection… Yes, we get it. You’re stupidly organised. Stop showing off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Roadman slang. I had this little git around my house the other night over Xmas- a friend amongst others of the daughters, giving it all wagwan, peng, fam. Utter nonsense. You are 14 from Portishead mate. Thankfully his Dad was as triggered as i was and shut him up. Also kids of a certain age - the tiktok generation - talking with an American accent and using American English. STFU 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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