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I personally can’t believe with that one decision of getting rid of Pearson how much this club has gone backwards , on the pitch we look clueless and destined to lose every time we play , but also how much doom gloom  & despair is hanging over the fans , surely if the fans ( all the fans by the way not a minority can see it ) those in charge can see it , at the moment the people in power at the gate the 2 Lansdowns & tinnion are solely responsible for the clubs demise .

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2 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

innit just Dave 🤣🤣🤣,  sorry Harvey,id love to help but im just too busy these days.  1964 mini is worth getting someone older in who knows what they are doing, things were adjustable in those days,none of this throw away electronic twonk i deal with now

Afraid it’s a 2014 Mini, but I take your point about getting someone experienced and knowledgable in to fix it👍

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He has to go now - i wouldn't give him next season and i wouldn't give him a penny to spend as it would be a waste. Unfortunately though i'm not at all convinced it would improve things given those in charge. We'll end up with someone else of similar mould as Manning and be in the same mess.

God it's depressing. We're a complete mess of a club.

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22 hours ago, Laner said:

I'm beginning to think we only gave him the job because he looks a bit like Eddie Howe.

I'd imagine that's a joke, but I'd say you're probably right. I think the seduction of him being a 'man city trained ' young, fresh faced english coach was easily more significant a factor than any of his accomplishments when the club selected him as manager. He has the illusion of a young manager with potential in the game - but in reality his best achievement was a good 3-4 months with Oxford. Should never have got the job.

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1 hour ago, Harvey86 said:

Afraid it’s a 2014 Mini, but I take your point about getting someone experienced and knowledgable in to fix it👍

you are welcome to book it in at work,we can give you a loan car, deutsche cars, german car specialists,(including bmw minis,) 😉its 10 mins from bs3 except match days. id be more than happy to take a look there. i can give a reference you will like too, i like being a vag specialist the most tho

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16 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Let’s hope so then as short term pain for long term gain. I cannot bear another season of this, Manning ball is worse than Pulis and SOD combined! 

This is bad but nothing was worse than Pulis 

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I scrolled back on the forum to August when Nigel's City came up against Liam's Oxford. LM sounded a good bet for the future;

In March 2023 they appointed Liam Manning as Head Coach. The 37 year old, first came to prominence as coach of the West Ham under-23 side before joining City Football Group and becoming first Director of Coaching at New York City FC and then Head Coach at Lommel FC in Belgium. He then enjoyed a successful spell at MK Dons where he guided the club to the play-off semi-final in his first season. Here is his first interview: https://youtu.be/segtq6fdboI

They finished last season in nineteenth place in league one, enduring a campaign marred by a fling with relegation and a 17-game winless run.

Like us they acted early in the transfer window to snap up the services of Ruben Rodrigues, Jordan Thorniley and Josh McEachran – all on free transfers due to their contracts expiring.

 

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23 hours ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said:

Nearly impossible from here-teams need to play each other that are down there 

Totally agree BUT from a position of 35 points from 24 games how did it even get to this position?!! It would take a repeat of Mannings worst run since he's been here (3 points from 8 games) to see us even get close to the drop from here imo. In simple terms that would still require Sheffield Wednesday to get a four wins and a draw in five of their last eight, Huddersfield and Birmingham to win half their remaining games plus QPR, Plymouth and Stoke to get three wins and a draw in half their remaining games. Blackburn would also need three wins or two wins and three draws from eight. You would have to expect that at least two of those will fall short on that, simply based on their record so far. If that was on the cards (e.g. we lose the next three and the wheels are coming off) he will be fired before then anyway. If that happened I would back Andy King to win one game out of the last five with three at home.

The one way I see us in genuine trouble is if we fail to win another game this season (and lose at least 6 of them).

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11 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Totally agree BUT from a position of 35 points from 24 games how did it even get to this position?!! It would take a repeat of Mannings worst run since he's been here (3 points from 8 games) to see us even get close to the drop from here imo. In simple terms that would still require Sheffield Wednesday to get a four wins and a draw in five of their last eight, Huddersfield and Birmingham to win half their remaining games plus QPR, Plymouth and Stoke to get three wins and a draw in half their remaining games. Blackburn would also need three wins or two wins and three draws from eight. You would have to expect that at least two of those will fall short on that, simply based on their record so far. If that was on the cards (e.g. we lose the next three and the wheels are coming off) he will be fired before then anyway. If that happened I would back Andy King to win one game out of the last five with three at home.

The one way I see us in genuine trouble is if we fail to win another game this season (and lose at least 6 of them).

Do you reckon king could get us into the playoffs if we appoint him now?

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10 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said:

Do you reckon king could get us into the playoffs if we appoint him now?

What in the bloody hell are you on about?

Nobody believes Andy King could get us in the playoffs if we appoint him now (I’m not even sure it’s mathematically possible based on who plays who) - but nobody - literally nobody - is suggesting he could. All anyone has said is that he could do better than the current incumbent - which seems highly likely based on our form.

That you have to make such a nonsense argument in addition to your Fergie comparison just shows that you really have nothing to defend LM with here.

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

What in the bloody hell are you on about?

Nobody believes Andy King could get us in the playoffs if we appoint him now (I’m not even sure it’s mathematically possible based on who plays who) - but nobody - literally nobody - is suggesting he could. All anyone has said is that he could do better than the current incumbent - which seems highly likely based on our form.

That you have to make such a nonsense argument in addition to your Fergie comparison just shows that you really have nothing to defend LM with here.

The question that nobody seems to give a sensible answer to which I have asked a couple of times is "how did we get from 35 points in 24 games and sitting relatively pretty to 47 points in 38 and looking over our shoulders?". It completely destroys the theory of "what can he be expected to do with these players?". "These players" were doing more than alright by the time January 1st came round and now they've fallen off a cliff. Why? Another argument is "look at the cup games, we only got beat once in four by Premier League opposition". Ok then, notwithstanding half the West Ham first team were missing, given it's the same players who some say aren't any good why is there such a marked difference between those performances and league matches?

The only mitigating factor that really stands out is Twine getting injured after we loaned Weimann to West Brom (as none of the "Nige Out" Fan Club have been able to think of that one I'll give it to them for free!!). That doesn't fully explain by any means though. The rest of the injuries are certainly nothing more than anything Nige had to put up with, in fact you might argue Binary Boy has had it easier most of the time. For a start, his Goalkeeper and two centre halves have barely missed a game, McCrorie has compensated for Tanner, Roberts for Pring, King has also come back into the fold, Wells is back. He hasn't had to play wet behind the ears kids out of necessity.

Why is it that as soon as he's got the lads out on the grass the goals have dried right up? Is it because he admitted to concentrating on defensive shape when his team have the joint 5th best defensive record in the division and joint fifth lowest goalscoring record? That makes complete sense and certainly explains our struggles to score a goal or even look like it for the most part. It tells me that Binary Ball is what we will be served up on a regular basis if he stays, not front foot, unless he can show us otherwise in the remaining eight games.

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