bristol red Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Andy King till end of season… see what he can do with these players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Any time between now and 26th April if they want me to renew my ST's 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Dredd said: Let's hypothetically say that the board have seen enough, decided Manning isn't the man for us and want to make a change for next season. Let's also assume in this scenario that we aren't going down. When do they make the change? We've got some key players out of contract next season, and a new guy is going to want to cast an eye over the squad to see who he wants next season and where he thinks the gaps are. So at what point do we think it's going to happen? Would it be the summer with the all knowing recruitment team deciding James/Williams/King aren't getting new deals and the new guy has to accept that? Doesn't seem ideal to me but I've felt for a while there's meddling from above going into the squad. The only things that will prompt a change are Very low gates for remaining games with those that do attend showing their dissatisfaction. A close brush with relegation Very low season ticket sales Players asking to leave. Our board are very happy to survive in the Championship and try to get as close to break even as possible. Nothing good can happen until SL understands that nobody wants to buy his Bristol Sport business and he breaks it up into saleable entities. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Now! Otherwise we'll beat Leicester and his status as Pep mk 2 will be restored 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fontaineofallknowledge Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? Edited March 18 by Fontaineofallknowledge 11 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 50 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Reckon he gets the next two, whether we like that or not. However to quote Randy Newman “I’ve been wrong before”.. Two years not games knowing this lot Graham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) Should have happened at any point in the last fortnight, as it hasn’t, today would be fine. Edited March 18 by bearded_red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham76 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 We’ve not had a hammering for a while and probably overdue one. Leicester giving us a 4-0 or 5-0 hiding at home could force their hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 He's going nowhere. And neither is this club. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 14 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? I agree about the echo chamber, but not the view of the average fan? Aside from Rudolph and presumably BigTone, we're all average fans on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silvio Dante Posted March 18 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? Hang on… Have you just conflated Alex Ferguson, who at his prior club (the third biggest in the country) won the league twice, the Scottish Cup twice, the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, with Liam Manning, who was sacked by MK Dons and all he achieved under his own steam was a 12 game run at Oxford? Its a spectacular reach, I’ll give you that. 20 3 17 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 On one hand , Lansdown has always seemed supportive and doesn't usually 'go early' on dismissals . On the other , they must have got an idea of the supporters feelings , and just as season tickets go on sale ? I think they will do nothing and we will play Leicester . Then if we get a stuffing , Little Jon will have an 'out' . He used the Cardiff game with half an academy side playing to sack Pearson. If we get done 4 or 5 , I can see our spineless Chairman using the opportunity to court favour with the fans by sacking LM . Then they can ramp up excitement for renewals by linking us to top, top managers until everyone has paid their money . Then get someone equally dull (probably ? ) if that's possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: On one hand , Lansdown has always seemed supportive and doesn't usually 'go early' on dismissals . On the other , they must have got an idea of the supporters feelings , and just as season tickets go on sale ? I think they will do nothing and we will play Leicester . Then if we get a stuffing , Little Jon will have an 'out' . He used the Cardiff game with half an academy side playing to sack Pearson. If we get done 4 or 5 , I can see our spineless Chairman using the opportunity to court favour with the fans by sacking LM . Then they can ramp up excitement for renewals by linking us to top, top managers until everyone has paid their money . Then get someone equally dull (probably ? ) if that's possible. Reckon Plymouth is the more likely barometer. Most expect Leicester to beat us, the way we set up we look to stay in games rather than win them, so a 2-0 defeat say, is nothing. Argyle haven’t won at home since January & have failed to score in their last 4 home games, a defeat there will have far greater impact. Edited March 18 by GrahamC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 46 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not going to happen Seagull. I posted previously that the hierarchy won’t want more egg on their faces after sacking Nige with a flimsy explanation. SLs strategy is ‘stability and sustainability’ and changing a manager so soon after appointing him goes against the former. Actually it would be to their credit to say, 'We accept and regret that it simply hasn't worked.' Other Championship clubs have taken decisive action in an attempt to limit damage and get fans back on side. They would have been embarrassed too but they knew it needed to be done and didn't shirk a difficult decision. When something's not working the sooner the situation is rectified the better - in this case for LM too imo. They may well be embarrassed, as they should be, but that embarrassment and discomfort will only increase the longer they leave it. Take the bull by the horns and put everyone out of their misery, no club should settle for the sort of stability LM brings which is rapidly emptying the stands. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham76 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 18 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? If you take some of the fans reaction at recent home and away games for example, it’s not a minority held view. The vast majority of fans are fed up and the empty seats at home to Swansea said it all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Fete Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Get a battering at home to Leicester, the atmosphere will be so toxic they’ll do it that evening. I say they, SL will direct JL but JL will say it’s his decision to look tough Lose to both Leicester and Plymouth whether close games or not and they will as above Season ticket sales, fans booing etc will force their hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Reckon Plymouth is the more likely barometer. Most expect Leicester to beat us, the way we set up we look to stay in games rather than win them, so a 2-0 defeat say, is nothing. Argyle haven’t won at home since January & have failed to score in their last 4 home games, a defeat there will have far greater impact. You could be right . I do think they will wait for an easy opportunity , a defeat so they can point and say, see it's him not us. I don't see any way they do it over the break, that would be decisive , and something that a well run Club might do. I really hope they are making enquiries already , you can see him being sacked now, and us taking until after the players come back for training to appoint someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) Warnocks available and looking for a job at a ‘struggling’ Championship side according to the Scum ….. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26741032/neil-warnock-aberdeen-championship-new-club-manager/ Edited March 18 by bcfcredandwhite Add words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Not going to happen Seagull. I posted previously that the hierarchy won’t want more egg on their faces after sacking Nige with a flimsy explanation. SLs strategy is ‘stability and sustainability’ and changing a manager so soon after appointing him goes against the former. It's not sustainable though. They're getting egg on their face virtually every time we play. A heavy defeat against Leicester, or just a defeat followed by a poor result at Plymouth and he has to go, if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Just now, Kingswood Robin said: It's not sustainable though. They're getting egg on their face virtually every time we play. A heavy defeat against Leicester, or just a defeat followed by a poor result at Plymouth and he has to go, if not before. They deserve everything they get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham76 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 A 20k plus crowd against Leicester singing “you don’t know what you’re doing” would be a massive embarrassment for the Lansdowns , especially on live on Sky TV. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Actually it would be to their credit to say, 'We accept and regret that it simply hasn't worked.' Other Championship clubs have taken decisive action in an attempt to limit damage and get fans back on side. They would have been embarrassed too but they knew it needed to be done and didn't shirk a difficult decision. When something's not working the sooner the situation is rectified the better - in this case for LM too imo. They may well be embarrassed, as they should be, but that embarrassment and discomfort will only increase the longer they leave it. Take the bull by the horns and put everyone out of their misery, no club should settle for the sort of stability LM brings which is rapidly emptying the stands. Dream on Nogbad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) And to think we gave Manning a 3 year contract so he could learn how to make us a top end challenging squad this season and be 10 points better off next season too? Oh, and buy another season ticket. Surely, this is the straw that breaks the camel’s back? Surely?!!!! Just get it done and show some integrity to the supporters for once and admit the mistakes. Edited March 18 by Gert Mare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Tinnion is the one that needs to go. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? It is not the losing of games. Rather it is 1. The failure to achieve this season what he was appointed to achieve 2. The hurtling down the league 3. Manning’s inane interviews and blaming the players 4. The way we’ve dropped points with the players half the men they were under Nige 5. The mismanagement during matches 6. The dire no entertainment football Etc etc He simply as many agree well beyond his comfort zone. There is, imo, no chance of him improving at this level, let alone the level we aspire to Edited March 18 by Ivorguy 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: It's not sustainable though. They're getting egg on their face virtually every time we play. A heavy defeat against Leicester, or just a defeat followed by a poor result at Plymouth and he has to go, if not before. By saying ‘sustainable’ SL is referring to the balance sheet at AG - income v outgoings and a reason why Nige was to reduce the wage bill. Obviously the more income generated via the facilities at AG, concerts, one day showcase events et el the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 13 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Warnocks available and looking for a job at a ‘struggling’ Championship side according to the Scum ….. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26741032/neil-warnock-aberdeen-championship-new-club-manager/ Did an amazing job at Aberdeen.. Would be futile to bring in a 75 year old who buggers off every few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: That’s Randy Crawford (what a voice), I think we’re getting our Randys mixed up, which is definitely a Carry On sketch.. 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: Ah it is - I read Crawford for some reason! Crawford, Newman…is there a Randy Pritchard? Way,way off topic but, surely this is the best name of the musical Randy's. Sounds a bit sinister to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_VanWarmer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 48 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said: Really is an echo chamber on here and doesn't reflect the view of an average fan. How has it come to losing a few games meaning you need to be sacked!? Would you have all sacked fergie in his early United days? Imagine it was just about losing a few games!!! Its a general descent to failure. 6 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: It is not the losing of games. Rather it is 1. The failure to achieve this season what he was appointed to achieve 2. The hurtling down the league 3. Manning’s inane interviews and blaming the players 4. The way we’ve dropped points with the players half the men they were under Nige 5. The mismanagement during matches 6. The dire no entertainment football Etc etc He simply as many agree well beyond his comfort zone. There is, imo, no chance of him improving at this level, let alone the level we aspire to Ivor gets it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Be very interesting to see what excuse they’d give from BT up if they did decide to pull the trigger in the next few weeks. The problem would then be with no likely changes happening to the football hierarchy. Who could they possibly recruit that would remotely placate the fans. The answer by the way is not Warnock. It needs BT(Feel a little sorry for him as he does love the club) and JL to step aside and for a proper experienced CEO and director of football. Chances of that happening? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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