Popular Post Jerseybean Posted March 31 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 31 Plymouth fans of a certain age will always associate this fixture with Argyle beating us 4-0 at Home Park to secure promotion from the old third division in 1986. Attendance was officially announced at 19,900 reflecting the safety certificate in place at the time, which was half the actual capacity (when the ground was 90 per cent terracing), but the ground was packed. Easily 30,000 plus in attendance for a third tier fixture in the 1980s which must have been very rare. https://youtu.be/K8FmDpNTBwI Under the lights, at Ashton Gate, back in September we won 4-1, highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/extended-highlights-bristol-city-4-1-plymouth-argyle/ We have sold our maximum allocation of 1,739 tickets for the trip to Home Park, so it could be quite a noisy affair. Like many of today’s modern sides, Argyle started out in a small way and in fact were an off-shoot of an amateur set-up known as Argyle Athletic Club. Various versions have been told of their origin, but the most feasible is that in 1886 a few keen former college pupils and public school boys met at the Borough Arms to discuss the formation of an athletic club in the Mutley area of Plymouth. Soccer was to be part of the activities from the start in those days when rugby was the main sport in the “Three Towns”, which consisted of Plymouth, Devonport and Stonehouse. The name ‘Argyle’ is unusual to say the least, so controversy surrounds how the name was adopted. One school of thought says that it derived from a local street named Argyle Terrace where the club’s committee used to meet in The Argyle Hotel. Another says that the club was named Argyle in honour of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders who were stationed at the time in Plymouth and whose football skills were much admired. Or was it that ‘Argyll’ and ‘Argyle’ were fashionable names at the time due to Queen Victoria’s’ fascination with all things Scottish? Plymouth Argyle have embraced two different badges through their history. One is in fact the shield in the arms of the city and county borough’s council, on record at the Heralds’ College. It shows the saltire of St Andrew, to whom the mother church of Plymouth is dedicated. The four towers represent fortifications. The more familiar badge is the one that depicts the Mayflower which sailed from Plymouth to America in 1620, carrying the early settling Pilgrims to the New World, and also giving rise to the illustrious nickname. Onto more recent times. They signed Spanish defender Julio Pleguezuelo. The 26-year-old agreed a two-year deal after leaving Dutch top-flight side FC Twente and is the first Spanish player to ever join the Pilgrims, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65978721 In January they added Tottenham defender Ashley Phillips on loan until the end of the season. They also signed Leeds United midfielder Darko Gyabi on loan until the end of the season. The 19-year-old worked with new Argyle head coach Ian Foster when he was in charge of the England Under-20s side. He has played five times for Leeds since moving to the club from Manchester City in the summer of 2022. He is however set to miss the rest of the season with a groin injury and has returned to parent club Leeds United. He made 10 appearances for the Championship strugglers after joining on loan in January. Also signed Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Alfie Devine on loan until the end of the season. The 19-year-old spent the first half of the campaign at Port Vale where he scored three goals in 26 appearances. They also signed Lino Sousa on loan after the England Under-19s left-back joined Aston Villa from Arsenal. In December they lost their gaffer Steven Schumacher to Stoke City, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67753445, they named former England Under-20 manager Ian Foster as their new head coach, in January. The ex-Liverpool academy player, 47, was working as Steven Gerrard's number two at Al-Ettifaq, in Saudi Arabia. Head-to-head record: Won: 27 Lost: 23 Drawn: 13 Sports Mole preview: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/plymouth-argyle/preview/preview-plymouth-vs-bristol-city-prediction-team-news-lineups_540101.html?cQx=NN&newsnow On Good Friday they lost 2-1 away at Norwich, with both the Canaries goals coming from corners. They currently occupy 20th place with 41 points. Referee is Keith Stroud. He will be assisted by Matthew Smith and Robert Hyde; David Rock is the fourth official. Played for both teams: Kieran Agard, Paul Anderson, Ian Baird, Tyreeq Bakinson, Andre Blackman, Yannick Bolasie, Joe Bryan, Richard Davis, Keith Fear, Arnold Garita, Rene Gilmartin, Trevor Jacobs, Joe Lennox, Guy Madjo, Sean McCarthy, Alan Miller, Kevin Nugent, Karleigh Osborne, Scott Partridge, Forbes Phillipson-Masters, Bobby Reid, Gary Sawyer, Steven Sessegnon, Enoch Showunmi, Phil Starbuck, Ryan Taylor, Robbie Turner, Zak Vyner and David Burnside. Well known fans include: Michael Foot - Former politician. Josh Widdicombe - Comedian. Jeff Brazier - TV presenter. Evander Holyfield - Heavyweight boxing legend. In April Argyle’s return to the second tier for the first time since 2010 was confirmed, https://youtu.be/jybZxpN06gE They were crowned League One champions after coming from behind to win at Port Vale on the final day of the season. Guide to Home Park: https://footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/league-one/home-park-plymouth-argyle.html We last faced them in the league in 2010 when they beat us 3-2 with a 90th minute winner, we have played them twice in the League Cup since. Our 2010 team was: Dean Gerken Louis Carey Jamie McAllister Liam Fontaine Bradley Orr Jamal Campbell-Ryce Marvin Elliott Cole Skuse Ivan Sproule Stefan Maierhofer Nicky Maynard Our bench: Stephen Henderson Christian Ribeiro Lewin Nyatanga Paul Hartley Lee Johnson David Clarkson Danny Haynes We played them in a pre-season friendly in July 2022. A late goal from Nahki Wells was enough for us claim victory on a day of sizzling sunshine at Home Park: https://youtu.be/PZfqdGnsvPI?si=ytJoeoZcDYQtLm59 Plymouth facts Unbelievably, 50 years ago the Pilgrims managed to beat Pele and his Santos side. March 14, 1973, saw almost 40,000 fans crowd both inside and outside of Home Park to watch the spectacle between Plymouth Argyle and Santos FC - who were taking part in a European tour that brought them down to the South West. The friendly match resulted in a 3-2 win to Argyle, the three goals by the home side being scored by Derek Rickard, Mike Dowling and Jimmy Hinch. While Pele and Edu clawed back two, it wasn’t enough to avoid defeat. Plymouth has always caught the attention of prominent Naval powers, but in 1815 it was a Naval power that caught the attention of Plymouth. After Napoleon Bonaparte’s defeat at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, he surrendered himself and was held on the HMS Bellerophon. After nine days of sailing, the boat arrived first in Brixham but then moved to Plymouth Sound where he was temporarily held. The news spread and for 10 days the Sound became an absolute hotbed, attracting tourists not just from the South West but all across the country. In one day, 8000 people took to the water in small boats hoping to get a better look at this notorious enemy. The bakery that supplied the Pilgrims is still open. Jacka Bakery and Delicatessen on the Barbican is Britain's oldest commercially working bakery, dating all the way back to 1597. In the over 400 years it has seen 20 reigning monarchs and is said to have supplied the Pilgrim Fathers with biscuits on their maiden Mayflower voyage of discovery. On the topic of old buildings, Plymouth’s Orthodox Jewish Synagogue dates back to 1762. It holds the European record for over 250 years of uninterrupted use. The history behind the building is incredible, having survived not only a hostile religious climate against Jews, but also being one of just two buildings that survived the German bombing on Catherine Street. It also narrowly escaped being literally wiped off the map by Patrick Abercrombie, a town planner who was responsible for rebuilding demolished post-war buildings. The humble building still operates today and is open to pre-booked visitors practising and not. The local coastline has attracted some interesting aquatic animals. One of the most popular was Snorkel the Loggerhead turtle, which washed up on a Cornish Shore in 1990. Snorkel lived in the National Marine Aquarium for 15 years and reached her late 20s until she died as a result of health complications. Mad Jack’ is one of the city’s slightly less well known aquatic characters. The lobster was caught by a Plymouth fishing crew back in 2008 and weighed in at 12lb 9oz (5.7kg), this monster was thought to be somewhere between 50 and 100 years old and also became a resident at the Aquarium. But perhaps the most daunting is the barrel jellyfish that washed up on the Turnchapel Wharf slipway. These are the UK’s largest species of jellyfish, weighing up to 35kg (a staggering 5.5 stone) - thankfully their size is the only terrifying thing about them, as their stings are relatively harmless to humans. The original fort of the Citadel was built in the 1590s under Sir Francis Drake’s advice, allowing for the strategic defence of the city’s waters. But years later, the civil war which drove Parliament into a brutal battle against the monarchy put the city in the bad books of King Charles II as we, unfortunately, picked the losing side. The Royal Citadel was then built by Bernard De Gomme under the King’s directions, but its strange design incorporated the ability for the guns to turn on Plymouth folk if they ever made the choice to revolt against the monarchy again. Plymouth Gin is arguably some of the finest in the country, although the locals love of it may very well be to their detriment judging by how the Barbican looks on a Saturday night. Plymouth Gin is distilled in Plymouth’s Black Friars Distillery, which is the oldest working gin distillery in England - operating since 1793. Not only this, but the building was originally a monastery built in 1431 which housed some of the Pilgrim Fathers on their final night in England. Plymouth Tea opened Devon’s first tea plantation, on the banks of the River Tavy. It’s only the second plantation in England. Also, somehow, Plymouth managed to nab the title of oldest pasty recipe from their pasty-loving neighbours. Discovered within one of the Plymouth Borough account books, the nation’s oldest pasty recipe dating way back to 1510. Plymouth sweets are a global phenomenon too, gum made in Plymouth’s Wrigley factory is enjoyed in over 180 countries globally. The factory produces a jaw-dropping three million packets of gum per day. Janner was originally an 18th and early 19th century seafarer's term of contempt for non-nautical people who lived in ports (literally "Johns"). In other places this has died out, but in Plymouth it's still used and adopted as a badge of pride. Although the club nickname themselves "the Pilgrims" no Pilgrim, or any other passenger on the Mayflower, came from Plymouth. One, Francis Eaton, did come from Bristol however. Pubs James Street Vaults, 24 James Street, Plymouth, PL4 6EQ, https://www.jsvplymouth.co.uk Almost engulfed by the ever expanding university campus, this is a predominantly student pub. Up to four ales can be available, with Dartmoor Jail Ale and Legend, and St Austell Proper Job supplementing the Tribute. Butcombe Bitter, Brains SA Gold and Caledonia Golden XPA also feature occasionally. Britannia – a Wetherspoons outlet around 10 minutes from the ground by foot – welcomes travelling supporters. Cherry Tree pub on Ham Drive, PL2 3NH, https://www.craftunionpubs.com/cherry-tree-pub-pennycross?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=homepage Hyde Park Social Club, 5 St Gabriel’s Avenue, PL3 4JQ is also 10 to 15 minutes from the stadium (but in the opposite direction) also welcomes away fans. https://www.hpscplymouth.co.uk Further away from the ground try one of these three: https://thegoodpubguide.co.uk/?s=&gpg=Plymouth&pub_category=2-worth-a-visit Let’s be loud and proud and make it a six point Easter at the Theatre of Greens. 16 8 1 4 Quote Link to comment
Robbored Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 That must have taken quite awhile to compose! 2 Quote Link to comment
redsquirrel Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 brilliant JB,thankyou 2 Quote Link to comment
wendyredredrobin Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 First time I ever watched City was at Home Park. Can't remember if it was December 67 or December 68 offhand but it always stirs the memory when we play there. In typical City style, having played extremely well to beat the Foxes on Friday, you can be sure that we will **** it up against the Pilgrims on Monday. Hope I'm wrong and we will see a repeat of the Leicester game though I don't want to see Plymouth relegated. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jose Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Think they are in trouble this season………. POP 1 Quote Link to comment
Offside Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I haven’t been there for ages and definitely not since they re-developed the ground. The park behind the away end was often lively and the toilets were like a swamp. One weird memory I have (must have been early 1990s) is when away fans were let out from the gates at the front of the away terrace after the game and had to walk across the pitch to be let out of the ground at the other end. 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Army 75 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Remember a game quite a few years ago now down there. Drew 0-0 awful game. But very very tasty. Recall being in the cherry tree pub. Expect a fair few on here remember that day. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Jerseybean Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Robbored said: That must have taken quite awhile to compose! Bet ya @BigTone ‘s response won’t take quite so long to compose 1 Quote Link to comment
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Offside said: I haven’t been there for ages and definitely not since they re-developed the ground. The park behind the away end was often lively and the toilets were like a swamp. One weird memory I have (must have been early 1990s) is when away fans were let out from the gates at the front of the away terrace after the game and had to walk across the pitch to be let out of the ground at the other end. That was a cup game IIRC. We could have won it in the last minute of normal time (hit the post?) and they went on to win 1-0 in ET - Dwight Marshall scored I think. It was a bit weird though being led across the pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment
City Rocker Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 4 hours ago, Jerseybean said: I was at this game, I believe it was Good Friday 1985, my first visit to Home Park. We lost 1-0 I think, and my memories include their mob trying to get out through the locked gates before the game to have a go at us in their car park, and also having lumps of concrete thrown at us during the game. Welcome to the mild south west. I trust those going tomorrow enjoy more pleasant day out all round 1 Quote Link to comment
pongo88 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Does anyone know how Evander Holyfield became a Plymouth supporter? On a different note HMS Bellerophon, which you mentioned, has an interesting history. The logbooks have survived and give an insight into life on board in the 1800s. There were several ex slaves on board who had escaped from slavery by swimming to the ship. In those days anyone who put one foot onboard one of His Majesty’s ships instantly became a free man. One of the ex slaves was a white American who had been captured whilst sailing off the coast of Africa. The logbooks show a level of meritocracy that didn’t exist outside of the navy. No mere sailor could rise to become an officer but they could rise to the top jobs below officer class. For example, black ex slaves became “top men”. This was one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs as they had to climb to to top of the masts in all weathers, storm or no storm, to manage the sails Enough of the history - City to win 2-0 4 2 Quote Link to comment
Jerseybean Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 Their match preview: https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/bristol-city-h-match-preview Quote Link to comment
Jerseybean Posted March 31 Author Report Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Does anyone know how Evander Holyfield became a Plymouth supporter? On a different note HMS Bellerophon, which you mentioned, has an interesting history. The logbooks have survived and give an insight into life on board in the 1800s. There were several ex slaves on board who had escaped from slavery by swimming to the ship. In those days anyone who put one foot onboard one of His Majesty’s ships instantly became a free man. One of the ex slaves was a white American who had been captured whilst sailing off the coast of Africa. The logbooks show a level of meritocracy that didn’t exist outside of the navy. No mere sailor could rise to become an officer but they could rise to the top jobs below officer class. For example, black ex slaves became “top men”. This was one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs as they had to climb to to top of the masts in all weathers, storm or no storm, to manage the sails Enough of the history - City to win 2-0 Plymouth’s name was apparently drawn from a hat on Soccer AM during a segment involving Holyfield as the programme looked to find a team for him to follow! 1 Quote Link to comment
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Plymouth’s name was apparently drawn from a hat on Soccer AM during a segment involving Holyfield as the programme looked to find a team for him to follow! So he didn`t used to stand on an orange box at the Devonport End with his grandad back in the seventies then? 5 Quote Link to comment
pongo88 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 58 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Plymouth’s name was apparently drawn from a hat on Soccer AM during a segment involving Holyfield as the programme looked to find a team for him to follow! I’m glad a name for me wasn’t drawn out of a hat for me. If it had I’d have ended up supporting 7 3/8th 2 Quote Link to comment
Son of Fred Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: For example, black ex slaves became “top men”. This was one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs as they had to climb to to top of the masts in all weathers, storm or no storm, to manage the sails I remember an old pal (now sadly passed) telling me about being 'button boy' at HMS Ganges, training establishment.. The idea was to stand at the top of the mast, 143 feet, holding the top spike between the knees...makes me dizzy thinking about it! 2 Quote Link to comment
Robbored Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: I remember an old pal (now sadly passed) telling me about being 'button boy' at HMS Ganges, training establishment.. The idea was to stand at the top of the mast, 143 feet, holding the top spike between the knees...makes me dizzy thinking about it! I saw a documentary awhile back about this very thing and how the lads climbed up and the top lad was always the last to ascend but the first descend and he did it by using rigging cable hanging on upside down with feet crossed over the rope and used his hands one over the other - it was truly amazing. Edited March 31 by Robbored 1 Quote Link to comment
Malago Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 7 hours ago, extonsred said: Any streaming? Available on RTV to domestic and overseas viewers. £10 for a day pass. Quote Link to comment
firstdivision Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, City Rocker said: I was at this game, I believe it was Good Friday 1985, my first visit to Home Park. We lost 1-0 I think, and my memories include their mob trying to get out through the locked gates before the game to have a go at us in their car park, and also having lumps of concrete thrown at us during the game. Welcome to the mild south west. I trust those going tomorrow enjoy more pleasant day out all round Yep, it was a damp, miserable Good Friday. Tommy Tynan scored their winner late on when John Shaw, I think it was, misjudged a ball into our box. We had what seemed a good goal disallowed. We were in with a chance of back-to-back promotions. We beat promotion rivals Hull on Easter Monday 2-0, but fell away. Won only four of our last nine to finish 5th, six points behind the third promotion spot. No play-offs in those days. Edited March 31 by firstdivision Quote Link to comment
22A Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I'm told by older fans that City once lost 5-0 at Plymouth on Boxing Day and that goalie Tony Cook was drunk. The next day was the return fixture at AG. Bob Anderson replaced Tony C in goal and City won 6-0. Dunno about you, but I'd like to see a return to "local" derbies again at holiday times with the fixtures just 24 hours apart. For some reason they always lwd to odd score lines such as I detailed above. 1 Quote Link to comment
22A Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Differing views from the Green Army ahead of this game; https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/argyle-v-bristol-city-the-build-up.127606/ Liam Manning & Scott Twine fill me with dread. Their last visit to the Theatre of Greens was a day to forget for our beloved club. Be interesting to see who will be given the task of stopping Twine & quick feet Mehmeti. They Played For Both Kieran Agard, Paul Anderson, Ian Baird, Tyreeq Bakinson, Andre Blackman, Yannick Bolasie, Joe Bryan, Richard Davis, Keith Fear, Arnold Garita, Rene Gilmartin, Trevor Jacobs, Joe Lennox, Guy Madjo, Sean McCarthy, Alan Miller, Kevin Nugent, Karleigh Osborne, Scott Partridge, Forbes Phillipson-Masters, Bobby Reid, Gary Sawyer, Steven Sessegnon, Enoch Showunmi, Phil Starbuck, Ryan Taylor, Robbie Turner, Zak Vyner. Any more? Dave Smith Dave Burnside? I didn't realise Trevor Jacobs & Keith Fear had played for both. Correct if wrong but I believe Dave Burnside was a Bristolian, but never played for either Bristol club. Quote Link to comment
firstdivision Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, 22A said: I'm told by older fans that City once lost 5-0 at Plymouth on Boxing Day and that goalie Tony Cook was drunk. The next day was the return fixture at AG. Bob Anderson replaced Tony C in goal and City won 6-0. Dunno about you, but I'd like to see a return to "local" derbies again at holiday times with the fixtures just 24 hours apart. For some reason they always lwd to odd score lines such as I detailed above. 1955 1 Quote Link to comment
ralphindevon Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 The shortest I’ve had to travel for a City game since I lived in Bristol 21 years ago. When the fixtures came out I was hoping we’d still have a chance of getting in the playoffs when we visited Plymouth. Looking forward to it anyway. A draw, probably 1-1. Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Condensed Version Plymuff: Plymouth Gin is arguably some of the finest in the country 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Superjack Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Dead rubber. Dying club. Quote Link to comment
BCFC1512 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: Remember a game quite a few years ago now down there. Drew 0-0 awful game. But very very tasty. Recall being in the cherry tree pub. Expect a fair few on here remember that day. 96 Quote Link to comment
BCFC1512 Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 I also remember a game early 00s when there fans charged the away end. 1 Quote Link to comment
Porto Red Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 Oh god are we playing again already? Do I have to watch? (Devon lad born and bred but I never knew that about Britain's oldest bakery. Amazing) 1 Quote Link to comment
Tyna Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 11 hours ago, extonsred said: Any streaming? I expect these will have it http://www.fawanews.com/ Quote Link to comment
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