Silvio Dante

37 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Dorchester beaten by Yate….than sounds like an upset???

Saw Yate vs Dorchester at Lodge Road last year. Yate won that one 4-1 (Will Buse was in goal for Dorchester) - add in that Yate have had a good start to the season and won all their away games to date and it’s a result which was hoped for if not anticipated. I’m hoping that Yate at least get upper mid table this year.

47 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

@TBW - didn’t think you’d want to miss the update

Just on Ipswich’s outs, this is their third(?) season at league one. My town supporting mate, who is hugely Ashton sceptical, tells me that price of football reported their average wage in the first league one season as £6k p/w, with a significantly sized squad.

I’ve no doubt some “in”s are on a decent wedge (eg Morsy), but if you take the wage depression that would have been caused by Covid in line with the above info on prior finances, it’s not a definite that they’ve had a significant wage uplift. 

4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said:

Only 3 players cost them money, the rest were freebies and loans. I see Wes Burns was one of the new signings and they got rid of Cole Skuse and James Wilson. Some Ipswich fans are saying they have "the best squad in L1 history" and hope to get 100 points this season, they actually mention our title season and they hope to emulate that. Trouble is they've had no pre-season with most of the players so could take them until Christmas to work out their best eleven.

Not just Wilson and Skuse, but higher earners such as Chambers and Sears, together with making a couple of million on Downes and Dozzell. They’re probably fine FFP wise this year, it’s when there’s no family silver left to sell. 

1 hour ago, Selred said:

How do you define successful? I'd say Pato, Wright were successful for example. 

Indeed. Successful is subjective in some cases. I have no love for Ashton but the hit rate is nowhere near as bad as that chart is suggesting.

It may be better worked with some “jury out” colouring but it’s also harsh to say Massengo, Williams (Ashley - on the basis of a free and did a solid job), Taylor (see price paid vs contribution), Weimann, Paterson etc aren’t successes based on overall club contribution. I’d also not say Ty is an unqualified success.

To look at “success” from another angle here, take Szmodics. Didn’t look good enough to me but we made a profit on him. Not a signing I’d make (and I think it was an Ashton signing to try and appreciate value), but do we argue it’s not a success when it’s made cash?

Theres plenty to hang Ashton on without going into something so subjective

Just now, Port Said Red said:

I thought he had decided to retire like that other bloke they tried to sign back in June.

“Glenn Whelans giving up football - he’s signed for Bristol Rovers”

They’ve just signed another one - Sam Morsy. Decent get that.

Ashtons post window self wankfest is going to have to be released as a six part box set as opposed to a single interview.

2 minutes ago, TomF said:

We never managed this did we? 

We didn’t - I got injured and the club fixed a game up. Both inconsiderate. We need to do it though.

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I read on twitter (might’ve been @Kid in the Riottweet) that said in City’s warm-up, we did drills as a back 5.

If so, that’s bloody top shithousery!!

We actually lined up at the very start with 3x CBs - Atkinson centre with a Kalas right and Baker left, all of them within the “D”

Considering (I think) this is Tom Abells first innings back post injury he’s been ridiculous. This has been superb, and although I’m glad England aren’t picking him, how he’s not in the conversation for the test team is insane.

1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Brilliant keeping and three for Roleof now!

Isn’t it a run out technically, as he’s hit it?

4 minutes ago, TomF said:

Those eyes

2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

RVDM you ******* hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X2!!

3 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Poor girl

Girls.

Without prejudging the outcome here, the fact it’s three complainants and not just one adds a bit of weight to any prosecution case.

Charged with 4 counts of rape and one count of sexual assault against three complainants. Suspended by Man City.

Feels like the right moral action at this stage by MCFC (can’t sack him until/unless found guilty). Jesus though, if proven, what a scumbag.

Edit - Mods please merge as posted at the same time as identical topic

Right, anyone else tuning to 94.9 fm and opening a cider?

”I was there for the Thatcher years Geoff…”

I see Rovers have replaced Clint Hill with that bastion of integrity Kevin Bond. 
 

You know, Kevin Bond. Likely related to Esmond Million.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/5378844.stm

Is being an accused criminal a prerequisite to being employed by that mob…?

The “problem” with us is like many other clubs. 
 

We have two seasons of new signings.

If you look at the side today, Bentley, Kalas, DaSilva, Massengo and Weimann were in the first team squad pre Covid. All have songs bar TK (which doesn’t scan well).

Simpson, Atkinson, James, Pring, Scott, Martin are all in one way or another “new”. Chants have to be earned, not given, and players earn them via performance. So I don’t expect them to have chants for a while.

Or you end up with shit like “Alex Scott, he’s one of our own” for a player born nearer sodding Paris than Knowle!

Well, it’s good to see Roma did their research on their official tweet 
 

1 hour ago, Better Red said:

Vyner is 24 so there is a gap of say 5 years where we have produced 1 player - Kelly. 
 

So that’s a good return for say 20m ?
 

Let’s just look at the facts not your optimistic view of the future.

 

Scott will play in the Prem - Based on what? I have watched him twice and again the hype vs the reality- Let’s see if he is in the starting line up Friday - I will say now he want. He is only playing because we are so poor at the moment.

We are bigging up these kids up before they even look like getting into a bottom three Championship club.

Why can’t they get in ? - simple they ain’t good enough. 

it’s not just an opinion it’s largely based on facts.

Maybe I am just able to separate optimism from reality. 

Maybe I am just better at understanding the game then you

Possibly it’s about our level of Intelligence.

Either way not a troll or a moron.

Just a small tip. If you’re claiming to be more intelligent than the person you’re responding to, it may be appropriate to respond to what they actually said. I didn’t say Scott would play in the prem,  I said he was an 18 year old (ok 17) playing in the championship.

If you’re claiming to be intelligent, you might also realise the phrase is “no he won’t” not “now he want”. 
 

If you’re claiming to be more intelligent, you might want to remember that in the last five years we’ve produced more than one league footballer from the academy.

If you’re claiming to be intelligent, you might want to look up the definition of opinion vs facts. You’re expressing an opinion, not a fact despite what you say.

Actually, If you’re claiming to be intelligent, the best thing for you to do might be to stop digging. Because everything you’ve written suggests the opposite.

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

@Silvio Dante Alex Scott is actually still 17 for another week yet..

My bad. I just don’t like having to edit posts in a weeks time

10 minutes ago, Better Red said:

TM, Bakinson and HNM all brought in for what maybe 4m - 7m difficult to say.  Gone through our youth system all be it later on and how many started this season - None

Nurse - Sold 

Moreton - Trying to off load

Bell/Conway - will prob go out on loan

Scott - Will struggle to make the bench after next 3 games.

Pring - Can’t get a game and JD is not firing at the moment so never likely to play unless JD injured again.

Jenah - will prob go out on loan if we get a striker in.

Person - not sure what happened to him again not good enough.

O’Leary never make a championship keeper always be no 2 - L1 at best.

If I am so wrong or wide if the mark where are they ? 
 

I did say it won’t be popular it feed up hearing about all these great kids. 
 

Maybe at L1 but not the Championship that’s for sure.

 

 

 

 

Mate. Have a word with yourself. In terms of Moore, Massengo, Bakinson they are not academy players. Massengo has been in the first team squad since he signed, and was injured pre season hence no involvement - you may recall last year NP playing and praising him, and HNM being one of our one bright spots.

As for the rest 

Scott - played very well first two games and only 18. If he does go out on loan eventually that’s fine, but it doesn’t mean he’s not making it. Do me a favour - show me how many 18 year olds are playing Championship football regularly. You can’t. You’re trying to prove your point by picking on one who is!!

O’Leary - He’s played at this level for a stretch. He’s played exceptionally well at the level down. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but one of our best players is our GK and we can’t play two. 
 

Pearson (it’s Pearson not person) - Involved in pre season. Is he ahead of Weimann currently which is what he’s going for? No. Should he be ahead of an established footballer at this level who we desperately missed last season? No. Does that make him a bad player? No. 
 

Bell/Conway/Jannah - see Pearson 

You appear to think that if someone’s not tearing up the league at 18 they are never going to make it. While simultaneously thinking the one 18 year old who is playing well at this level isn’t going to make it. So, absolutely no reason to keep on 18 year olds who may need loans at lower levels in your opinion.

Here’s a few names for you:

Ben White - Loaned to Newport in L2 at age 18

Jack Grealish- Loaned to Notts County in L1 at age 18

Harvey Barnes - Loaned to MK Dons in L1 at age 18

All played for England in the last 12 months. But as they were only ready for L1 or below at Bell, Pearsons, Scott’s and Conways age I assume Brighton, Villa and Leicester should have let them go.

You’re either a troll or a moron.

I think the OP may have been possessed by the spirit of the departed Ashton Yate.

What needs to be understood is that the academy/youth system for years was not fit for purpose. You might see Matt Bryant, Aaron Brown or Joe Bryan come through but it was at best 1 player a year making it to not just our first team, but league football generally. And that was when we were a lower level and there was more chance to get through as there were less overseas players.

Where we are now is we’re getting rid of players like Nurse, who move to league one. That says we’re bringing through good players. And it’s only just getting to that point, because the academy has developed. So we have Scott, Conway, Towler, Bell etc (Massengo and Bakinson were bought as non academy players). And behind that, we have Low, Henry, Benarous, Francois. Not all will make it - it’s the fifth hardest league in the world FFS. But right now, we have players with chances.

And to make this comment after two games when most of the kids haven’t been playing is a touch bizarre.

17 hours ago, Northern Red said:

 

Much as I hate the hundred, this was phenomenal