ScottishRed

1 hour ago, ray savino said:

To be fair, I think you may be right. My thinking comes from the fact that despite the flak that Kalas gets at times (on occasions with a few mistakes may be valid), he seems to carry the most authority and experience amongst our defenders. He wasn’t a captain, but I still think he is a leader. He is willing to put his body on the line and I get the firm impression that he really hurts when we mess up or lose. I do think he’s good enough to play at a higher level (lower prem, decent Champ or European team. If we did get rid, then I think we would have to get that centre back with real backbone, passion and know how, that will cost but we’d need it.

With goalies they are important. Cloughie said he rated signing Shilton as or more important than a top outfield player. I get what he meant, but in our case I do think we would get by for the moment with a good steady Eddie type keeper. Think and hope that Max could develop into the answer soon, too.

Agree though that Kalas would probably command more interest and bigger fee. Also you’re right, final year and he won’t want to drop his wage too much if at all - not to what we might want him to take. Also think professionally he may need a lot of convincing about the project here - he’s still an international, getting to his prime and a decent offer from the Bundesliga or of the like and I’d understand a desire to move, particularly after the last few years here.

The key to it to me is back to the recruitment policy. Not just selling all the best assets after one good season, but having a strategy to build. So that means having contract lengths right so players can be kept to have the time to grow together and we don’t have to say yes all the time. We inevitably will have to sell along the way, as long as we replace with players that don’t significantly weaken the team build, i.e. Brentford. Invest more wisely, etc.

If we end up getting rid of a core of best players each year then we aren’t going to grow. I think that whole recruitment thing is so bloody obvious that maybe the penny has dropped with Lansdown now as well. 

For me the hope is how our young players performed with real attitude, some real skill, know-how and courage although obviously raw. But for the first time since the Dicks era, it looks to me that there seems a decent group of young talents that are coming through together that look like they may just have the hunger to make it to the first team at this level and maybe beyond. Add some decent recruitment like Tanner and Atkinson, and add a touch of experience as well, it may start to feel like a proper plan.

On what planet do you think Max could become a ‘steady Eddie’ keeper? He scares me to death, there is no way that he is going to become a regular starter in the Champioship for us or anyone other side.

So many on this thread saying sell Bentley - we may have to or he may want to move on, but he will be seriously missed , he is a top keeper at this level.

1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

No, I think the managers that might wont bloody go there and they have enacted the change at quite a risky time for them, Bruce was liked by they players and he managed to improve position last season and this season to be fair he's been bloody unlucky.  But now you have a situation where the candidates they are looking at if the press is to be believed are not great the best of them is Martinez but I cant see him going and even he would be a gamble.

I mean even the Premier League have put a ban on the owners singing any kind of sponsorship deal I can see it all going tits up by Christmas.   Everyone seems to think because of the money its a forgone conclusion that they will go upwards. 

I don’t know what media you are getting that from but they are apparently looking at some big options for the job - BUT, For a number of reasons a lot of them will not be interested.

If it were my call, not that I care, I would follow the Man City route and appointment someone who would progress things and potentially win some trophies before going for the top person possible.

Newcastle could do a lot worse than trying for Roberto Mancini.

It will take time and wise decisions but Newcastle will become one of the biggest clubs in the world.

The Saudi’s are sports washing, of that there is not a doubt and they will get away with it.

3 minutes ago, BcFcOneLove said:

Don't really get this argument, as we have made £60m+ profit on players over the last few years and are the 6th most supported club in the championship this season.... We're not exactly skint!

But we lose a ton of money every year that SL bails us out on. There are many on here that are much more versed in this but trust me, there may well be cash to spend BUT we cannot spend it because we would be breaking the rules - it is that simple.

As an example take Newcastle United, now effectively owned by part of the Saudi government, the PIF, who have assets of £250bn - that is not a typo- they cannot spend more than £190m in January because of the same reason. 

If SL wanted to give Nige a load of money in January he could, but eventually we would be hammered with a points deduction and an embargo and fine.

1 minute ago, OddBallJim said:

Invest nothing in the playing squad (Tanner aside) and this is what you get. 
 

Absolute spineless crap. 

Maybe not the time, but which part of FFP don’t you understand?

18 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

The fine from UEFA, £100,000 for this vs ~£15,000 when it’s a racism charge 

The simple fact is that there should not be a fine for racism at all - there should very simply be instant EXPULSION  and a ban, from any tournament that it occurs in.

That should happen to both countries and clubs.

I would extend that to any player who is found guilty of racist remarks should face the fact that his club or country, whoever he is playing for at that time, is instantly banned from that tournament, regardless of the result of the game in question.

I am also hugely in favor of teams walking off when racism is coming from the crowd - and refusing to return.

I remember Spain v England, not sure of the year but Sven was the manager, and screaming at the TV for him to take the team off the pitch in response to the Spanish racism.

It would only take a few instances of action such as that to start to make a difference.

3 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I'm not sure he knows, let alone the rest of us.
Not sure what would be in it for a partner, apart from less financial burden for running costs. There is only money to be made if we go up, then sell again. 
I can't think of any other investment opportunities , unless as you say he splits up what he's built in Bristol Sport or sells the complex next to the Gate.
I guess we will find out in the fullness of time.

There is no way that he is splitting up Bristol Sport unless, someone comes in with massive money and guarantees to keep it together - that is not going to happen.

I think SL is all about legacy now, IF we got to the PL, and survived, or the Bears won something, he would probably be happy.

Ultimately, I read, albeit on here, that Junior ain’t looking to take over...........there may be interesting times ahead.

7 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

@Red Exile and @ScottishRed

What does the flame mean please?

Is my post a load of tosh or bang on?

Bang on my friend, totally agreement from me.

7 minutes ago, GTFABM said:

Anyone can come out after a game and say where things went wrong. He is paid the big bucks to sort it out whilst the games are going on. Bournmouth would have beat most teams in this league playing like they did today, sadly we lose to every team in this league playing how we did.

Have I missed something? I assume you mean we WOULD lose to every team playing like that -  which is of course, utter nonsense.

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Unsure how it breaks down but reportedly as high as £28m in a total debt to HMRC. Winding up order from HMRC reportedly in Jan 2020- something very odd, usually these make the news at the time- for professional football clubs certainly.

Very good points though.

On a side note, Rooney is at it again- saying the administrators need to find the right buyer and he mentions building up the team- I don't see how given that any prospective new owners will have to agree a 2 year business plan with the EFL or failing that would fall into an embargo. I doubt that in the near, perhaps medium term any business plan would allow extravagant spending.

There is something odd there re HMRC. My understanding, could be wrong, is that they have been ‘ after’ football for a while as they believe there  are a number of things effecting both clubs and players that are breaking the rules.

They tried to ‘get’ Glasgow Rangers and, to an extent succeeded, but not to the full extent that they should have - have a Google of Employee Benefit Trusts!

Rangers should have had to start back in the West of Scotland league but the SFA and the SPFL tried to simply get them demoted to the Scottish Championship - this required a vote by all SPFL clubs, which looked initially that it would be successful.

Then the fans of every other club stepped in and made it crystal clear that should their club vote in agreement there would be no point because they would no longer be attending ANY games, not just against the cheats.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

I’m just waiting to see whether they have anyone credible interested.  I suspect not at this point.  In some respects a series of defeats might make things easier.  Results are making the -12 look like it can be overcome.

That is my fear too @Davefevs they just may survive this, which would be appalling.

On 12/10/2021 at 16:22, BTRFTG said:

Yet another reason why I'm really, really, really begining to dislike modern day footballers.

As paying punters don't we have a right to know what it is were buying, how competent (or otherwise) we might expect players to be?

If players don't like being in the spotlight, then FRO. 

It is a very good point and how far does it go?

Should the media pay for the data when they give players marks out of 10 for a performance?

Should Sky or BT pay a particular player for showing his goal / pass/ save numerous times in an analysis?

Load of nonsense.

@Mr Popodopolous and @Hxj you both do some fabulous posts on this and all the financial stuff - thank you.

I am typing this as a proud Scot but most certainly not anti- English, having lived here more than half my life.

Let me be totally clear, I want England to win unless of course it is against Scotland.

I think  Southgate is a very negative coach, the quality and the talent of the front six that England currently have is unprecedented but he is scared, in my opinion to open up. He simply does not want to lose.

In the Euros final you go 1-0 nil then for me, and I have managed at a hugely lower level, you go for the kill, at 2-0 that game was over.

World Cup in Russia the semi was a different story but still too conservative. 

You will get to Qatar, no issue, but the end result will not be a trophy and with the talent available you should be favorites.

14 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

**** the bitter jocks

Thanks for your support.

11 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

 

I suppose the frustration is which clubs are currently seen as "bigger, better, and with more chance of winning things":

• Lloyd Kelly moved to the "bigger and better" Bouremouth
• Bobby Reid moved to the "bigger and better" Cardiff
• Joe Bryan moved to the "bigger and better" Fulham
• Adam Webster moved to the "bigger and better" Brighton
• Josh Brownhill moved to the "bigger and better" Burnley

I don't really mind us losing our best players as that happens to every club in the world (perhaps bar Real Madrid and Barcelona). I absolutely get why these players move....they would be crazy to turn down premier league football and money.

However, I can see why one might be frustrated about some of the clubs listed above being considered a step up from us. Perhaps that's what @Sleepy1968 was getting at?

There is one fact that you are forgetting in that, Tammy was a Chelsea player.

8 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

I know what you're saying OP, but he was only on loan so never really our player. It's when we have contracted players that move on to 'bigger/better' clubs to further their careers because it makes me sad that we are still way behind the curve, and not expected to achieve anything.

Take HNM, probably the most exciting player, and the fantastic prospect Alex Scott. I don't want them to move on to a better clubs, but realisically we'll lose them both, possibly this season. Our only hope in these circumstances is to upcycle our squad quickly and get into a position to make these sort of players believe that we can go with them on their journey. A tall order.

 

But, I am afraid that is football. There will always be a bigger club, more money, better chances of winning things, if you have a talented player he is going to attract suitors. 

Just the way it is.

2 hours ago, RedZepperin said:

Churchillesque rallying cry from MA at Ipswich. Deft use of the English language, with an amazing, incredible and, may I say it, exciting use of adjectives that include "amazed", "amazing", "excited" and "exciting". Fans of his "fantastic" and (my personal favourite) "absolutely fantastic" will have to wait for his next speech. https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2021/october/mark-ashton-shrewsbury-town-programme-notes/

I repeat it again, in all seriousness, I am truly concerned about his mental health wellbeing.

Also, if I was Paul Cook, I would not be looking to buy a house in the Ipswich area.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Here we go…..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paper talk surely......

Struggling to see what benefit he could get from that move.

29 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said:

There is already a thread on gaschat discussing how Wally would rank in that list as we speak 

At the top surely!

3 hours ago, Desso said:

Sorry, who's Jon Lansdown?

An incredibly lucky bloke who will never have the worries that most people have.

15 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

What year

Not 2022

It is the old OTIB standard on Britton, he is ‘one of our own and he is going to be a star’’ .

He is miles off being a Championship striker at this point. 

19 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

Well ,we ain't gonna get one till Jan .

And probably not even then

1 minute ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

O'Dowda is an absolute imposter. If he never pulled on that red shirt again I'd be absolutely delighted. 

He has been for all his time here, should never have been given a new contract couple of years back.

He will be very difficult to move on.

He was exactly what was needed after the last regime of MA with LJ and DH was exposed.

He has a lot to sort out but he is doing that slowly but surely.

I expect the team spirit and work ethic is down to him and his methods and attitude.

And don’t forget Dave Rennie, he is a great aquisition.