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I agree with you that Newcastle would have to be the strong favourites if they were interested BUT it's not all clear-cut. Part of it will come to how much he will play, how much he feels he's wanted, how good a feeling he gets about the club during talks, whether his agent think it's better for him in the long-run to excel in a small pond for a season or to compete in a bigger one. I agree that it's hard for us to compete against Newcastle but not absolutely impossible...

If, as I believe to be the case, we have had an offer accepted by Man Utd and discussed terms with the player, he would be a bit daft not to look at his other options to compare before deciding his next career move.

We can only hope that being a big fish in a small pond and playing every week, whilst becoming a millionaire is preferable to him to being a bit part squad player in a big pond at an unstable club, under a manager who didn't play him as much as he could have done at a lower level last season.

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No reason to bullshit.

I asked my boy to ask if it was true and he came back to me and said yes.

I don't pretend to be itk just happen to know someone in this instance.

If things change in the meantime then maybe it's because of all things being let slip etc

 

Some backtracking appears to have started....

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I agree with you that Newcastle would have to be the strong favourites if they were interested BUT it's not all clear-cut.  Part of it will come to how much he will play, how much he feels he's wanted, how good a feeling he gets about the club during talks, whether his agent think it's better for him in the long-run to excel in a small pond for a season or to compete in a bigger one.  I agree that it's hard for us to compete against Newcastle but not absolutely impossible...

Even by mentioning Newcastle the against then alerts other clubs, I'd bet by the end of the day there will be at least two other clubs financially better positioned than us to compete for his signature.

The deal is dead in the water, unless the player has his heart set on coming to us, it's sad but a fact of modern life, especially in football that money talks.

As I've said a million times though, I'd love to be proved wrong and hopefully I will be.

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I'm yet to see an article mentioning Newcastle that discusses fees or wages.. It's regurgitated from the O'Rouke piece which was filler.

Have hope people..

There doesn't have to be, even if there's no interest I'm pretty sure the agaet will be trying to flog him to someone in a better financial position than us, they have no integrity and can only see the extra shekels.
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Jesse might've seen the Andy Cole documentary a few nights ago and realized that Andy wouldn't have become a Man Utd LEGEND had he not first become a Newcastle United LEGEND and he wouldn't have become a Newcastle Utd LEGEND had he not first left a top club in Arsenal where he wasn't getting games to join Bristol City in the division below.

 

Then again he might have been watching MTV instead.

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I'm pretty sure we've made it very public that we won't be held at ransom, spending willy billy, so Billionaire status is irrelevant.

 

Not if you're selling and want the best price for a player.

 

I suspect anyone selling anything which a billionaire really wants is not going to discount that fact just because said billionaire says " I'm not paying over the odds" - particularly if there are more buyers than sellers.

 

SL will most likely stick with his strategy but that won't stop a selling club asking a premium. In any case, your point was about showing our hand- we have- we want to buy real quality. Good. Let's hope we eventually do so at this level like we did in L1.

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Even by mentioning Newcastle the against then alerts other clubs, I'd bet by the end of the day there will be at least two other clubs financially better positioned than us to compete for his signature.

The deal is dead in the water, unless the player has his heart set on coming to us, it's sad but a fact of modern life, especially in football that money talks.

As I've said a million times though, I'd love to be proved wrong and hopefully I will be.

 

I suppose on the other side of that, we haven't done our nuts on our budget just yet, others club may have less available

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Been reading this thread with interest obviously due to calibre of player and being just as excited by the prospect of an England U21 international joining from Man Utd for a club record fee!

 

From what I can tell there has definitely been talk between the clubs/players and whilst many may say there are other bigger clubs, perhaps he has come to a stage in his career that he wants to join a club who play in a manner that suits him and a team where he can play weekly and improve. We do look an attractive club to join currently and iv no doubt that Cotterill/Burt/Lansdwon will speak very well on behalf of the club - so maybe its not over yet....

 

Keep on dreaming Lads! Its happened with other signings like James and more recently Freeman so why not again?!

 

I agree mate. Maybe this player has the imagination to see what is happening at Bristol City and go for us rather than agree with the tired old myth that if you go to Newcastle you are joining a Club that has significance in the Premiership. They have done nothing for 30 old years, scraping avoiding relegation each year in recent times. Newcastle are truly unfashionable. They have to sign expensive foreign players who seem to never gel as a team.

 

Maybe, just maybe, a trip to Ashton Gate to see the set-up and meet our excellent Management team and owner and of course meet a group of footballers who play for one another, might just persuade him.

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> Player linked with City

> 'I can't see it' says poster with no knowledge

> Link backed up by trusted insider

> Played linked with other club

> 'I knew it was never going to happen' says poster with no knowledge

 

:facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:

 

When these threads start if you want to be seen as ITK but are in fact clueless (aka pretty much all of us) you have to make a comment like "Heard this is 100% on" or the like in case it comes off for the cred afterwards. If it doesn't happen everyone will probably forget. Bonus points if you put "End of" or "FACT" after your post!

Less risky are "Sources told me this could be on", "Heard a few whispers about this but held up in contract negotiations" or similar which nobody can disproove.

Less risky still is saying nothing at all in an authoratative manner at random times, like "Heard we're in for a couple of good youngsters this week", or "Could be an interesting week, heard rumours of an unexpected signing" etc. as who can ever quibble with that.

Do this for a few threads, get a lucky guess in the right one and you're now seen as ITK and forum cred is yours to do with whatever people do with that.

If people realise what you're doing, get defensive and threaten to no longer reveal your insight until it's all forgotten!

Summer transfer window posting 101.

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When these threads start if you want to be seen as ITK but are in fact clueless (aka pretty much all of us) you have to make a comment like "Heard this is 100% on" or the like in case it comes off for the cred afterwards. If it doesn't happen everyone will probably forget. Bonus points if you put "End of" or "FACT" after your post!

Less risky are "Sources told me this could be on", "Heard a few whispers about this but held up in contract negotiations" or similar which nobody can disproove.

Less risky still is saying nothing at all in an authoratative manner at random times, like "Heard we're in for a couple of good youngsters this week", or "Could be an interesting week, heard rumours of an unexpected signing" etc. as who can ever quibble with that.

Do this for a few threads, get a lucky guess in the right one and you're now seen as ITK and forum cred is yours to do with whatever people do with that.

If people realise what you're doing, get defensive and threaten to no longer reveal your insight until it's all forgotten!

Summer transfer window posting 101.

Fair play, that sums up every single poster who thinks they're ITK!

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What everyone's ignoring of course is that Newcastle are rumoured to be interested where there seems to be more concrete information that we've made a bid.  Newcastle being interested complicates things but that's not the same as Newcastle having made an offer or the offer being accepted...

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I agree mate. Maybe this player has the imagination to see what is happening at Bristol City and go for us rather than agree with the tired old myth that if you go to Newcastle you are joining a Club that has significance in the Premiership. They have done nothing for 30 old years, scraping avoiding relegation each year in recent times. Newcastle are truly unfashionable. They have to sign expensive foreign players who seem to never gel as a team.

Maybe, just maybe, a trip to Ashton Gate to see the set-up and meet our excellent Management team and owner and of course meet a group of footballers who play for one another, might just persuade him.

I think some people need to take their rose tinteds off. Virtually no one outside of Bristol knows/cares about Bristol City. We are no bodies in a footballing backwater.

Now I hope all that changes and SL builds a dynasty here but it's unlikely to say the least. There are loads of clubs building big shiny stadia and buying lots of good players, at the moment we are upgrading our out dated stadium to be about average for the league we're in and we haven't really bought any players. To the rest of the world (and pessimists) we're relegation fodder...

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I think some people need to take their rose tinteds off. Virtually no one outside of Bristol knows/cares about Bristol City. We are no bodies in a footballing backwater.

Now I hope all that changes and SL builds a dynasty here but it's unlikely to say the least. There are loads of clubs building big shiny stadia and buying lots of good players, at the moment we are upgrading our out dated stadium to be about average for the league we're in and we haven't really bought any players. To the rest of the world (and pessimists) we're relegation fodder...

Well that's cheered me up...

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I think some people need to take their rose tinteds off. Virtually no one outside of Bristol knows/cares about Bristol City. We are no bodies in a footballing backwater.

Now I hope all that changes and SL builds a dynasty here but it's unlikely to say the least. There are loads of clubs building big shiny stadia and buying lots of good players, at the moment we are upgrading our out dated stadium to be about average for the league we're in and we haven't really bought any players. To the rest of the world (and pessimists) we're relegation fodder...

Couldn't disagree more to be fair, according to who are we relegation fodder? Everything I have read about the upcoming season every expects us to be in and around the play offs? As to the ground it's pretty much gunna be like a new stadium, also can you think back 12 months ago... You reckon Bournemouth was thinking we got a rubbish ground no chance of attracting big names, well they seem to be doing ok at the monent!! Money talks not about what your ground looks like or if they have heard of us...

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I would suggest that, national reputation wise, we are on a par with (or just below) someone like Charlton.

 

If it was suggested that he was about to sign for Charlton, would your reaction be to think it complete bollocks? I know mine would :(

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Bore off your only 2 hours late

 

Perhaps he/she has been busy for the last two hours and hasn't been glued to this thread reading every syllable of every post to make sure they don't miss any 'valuable' info.

 

And maybe they haven't had time to trawl through every one of the pages on here to make sure no one else has mentioned Newcastle's interest.

 

And they just might not have had time to visit every single social media platform to make sure the info on Newcastle wasn't posted anywhere two hours ago.

 

People should be able to post updates which they think may be of interest to others on here without fear of abrupt, dismissive responses.

 

'Bore off' is quite rude and unnecessary

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That Nixon fella said he's not expecting to hear anything about Newcastle/Lingard. I can't tell if he's saying it in a way that means there's no interest, or whether it's just that he's not following the situation anymore.

Or maybe he's been sacked for losing the plot and linking Man Utd prospects to footballing backwaters....

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I think some people need to take their rose tinteds off. Virtually no one outside of Bristol knows/cares about Bristol City. We are no bodies in a footballing backwater.

Now I hope all that changes and SL builds a dynasty here but it's unlikely to say the least. There are loads of clubs building big shiny stadia and buying lots of good players, at the moment we are upgrading our out dated stadium to be about average for the league we're in and we haven't really bought any players. To the rest of the world (and pessimists) we're relegation fodder...

We might as well just pack up and go home you ******* clown!!!

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James was at the end of his career and looking to be closer to home, Freeman was at a much smaller club and took a step up to be with us, JL has the chance to join Newcastle (if true), a club that's well established in the premier league, has a huge stadium and a great stage to help kick on his international career, not to mention they can probably double his wages from what we are offering.

Of course I'd love to be wrong but I just can't see it.

 

Not to mention the greatest fans in the galaxy.........................

 

Or so they say.

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When these threads start if you want to be seen as ITK but are in fact clueless (aka pretty much all of us) you have to make a comment like "Heard this is 100% on" or the like in case it comes off for the cred afterwards. If it doesn't happen everyone will probably forget. Bonus points if you put "End of" or "FACT" after your post!

Less risky are "Sources told me this could be on", "Heard a few whispers about this but held up in contract negotiations" or similar which nobody can disproove.

Less risky still is saying nothing at all in an authoratative manner at random times, like "Heard we're in for a couple of good youngsters this week", or "Could be an interesting week, heard rumours of an unexpected signing" etc. as who can ever quibble with that.

Do this for a few threads, get a lucky guess in the right one and you're now seen as ITK and forum cred is yours to do with whatever people do with that.

If people realise what you're doing, get defensive and threaten to no longer reveal your insight until it's all forgotten!

Summer transfer window posting 101.

Can't remember the fella's name but it's been long-established that one of the guys who has come out and said this is a goer has strong connections to BCFC. But he's being overruled by people who, in their own words, haven't got a clue.

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It's amazing how people are reacting to all sorts of posts on this thread, yet the one I posted from my source (people who know me and where I work will have a good idea who that source is) had been completely ignored..!

I'm sure most of you just love the drama!

We have made an approach but there is competition. Fact.

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Couldn't disagree more to be fair, according to who are we relegation fodder? Everything I have read about the upcoming season every expects us to be in and around the play offs? As to the ground it's pretty much gunna be like a new stadium, also can you think back 12 months ago... You reckon Bournemouth was thinking we got a rubbish ground no chance of attracting big names, well they seem to be doing ok at the monent!! Money talks not about what your ground looks like or if they have heard of us...

Just to clarify, this isn't my opinion, it's the opinion of Joe Bloggs anywhere outside of Bristol. I've not lived in Bristol for over 10 years and lived in 3 other cities. Most people have barely heard of us. People said to me after we lost the play off final "aren't you glad you didn't go up?"

Ask a 22 year old kid whether he wants to play for Newcastle or Bristol City and guess 99 times out of 100 what the answer is. I suspect that is where cotterill and burt are having trouble in this window

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It's amazing how people are reacting to all sorts of posts on this thread, yet the one I posted from my source (people who know me and where I work will have a good idea who that source is) had been completely ignored..!

I'm sure most of you just love the drama!

We have made an approach but there is competition. Fact.

 

Like I said earlier, it's funny how potentially positive info from this end such as yours is ignored or dismissed, yet random twitter posts saying he's off to Newcastle etc are taken as gospel.

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I thought that was Cardiff but only when they are winning and playing in blue, both as bad as each other although at least Newcastle have the numbers to back it up, Cardiff are just fickle.

 

We are both wrong - it is the Gash!  As evidenced by the crowd they took to Wembley to see them clinch their position as second best non-league club.

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We might as well just pack up and go home you ******* clown!!!

I think he's referring to perceptions outside Wessex.

Take a deep breath and read what I actually said!

Not my opinion. The opinion of the majority outside of Bristol...

There u go.

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It's amazing how people are reacting to all sorts of posts on this thread, yet the one I posted from my source (people who know me and where I work will have a good idea who that source is) had been completely ignored..!

I'm sure most of you just love the drama!

We have made an approach but there is competition. Fact.

 

I don't think anyone is disputing the last line of your post - that seems to be pretty well known now

 

Just to clarify, this isn't my opinion, it's the opinion of Joe Bloggs anywhere outside of Bristol. I've not lived in Bristol for over 10 years and lived in 3 other cities. Most people have barely heard of us. People said to me after we lost the play off final "aren't you glad you didn't go up?"

Ask a 22 year old kid whether he wants to play for Newcastle or Bristol City and guess 99 times out of 100 what the answer is. I suspect that is where cotterill and burt are having trouble in this window

 

I don't think the highlighted part is true

I think the last line is though

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It's amazing how people are reacting to all sorts of posts on this thread, yet the one I posted from my source (people who know me and where I work will have a good idea who that source is) had been completely ignored..!

I'm sure most of you just love the drama!

We have made an approach but there is competition. Fact.

:robbored:

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Just to clarify, this isn't my opinion, it's the opinion of Joe Bloggs anywhere outside of Bristol. I've not lived in Bristol for over 10 years and lived in 3 other cities. Most people have barely heard of us. People said to me after we lost the play off final "aren't you glad you didn't go up?"

Ask a 22 year old kid whether he wants to play for Newcastle or Bristol City and guess 99 times out of 100 what the answer is. I suspect that is where cotterill and burt are having trouble in this window

Play for Newcastle or Bristol City does that include sitting on the bench?? My point is exactly that, he might also be linked to Newcastle but surely playing football is the lads priority!!

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Play for Newcastle or Bristol City does that include sitting on the bench?? My point is exactly that, he might also be linked to Newcastle but surely playing football is the lads priority!!

 

I suspect the dollar involved will make him feel better about it all if he's on the bench at Old Trafford, instead of playing in the rain against Rotherham, unfortunately

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Take a deep breath and read what I actually said!

Not my opinion. The opinion of the majority outside of Bristol...

 

I have read it.

 

a) Most people outside Bristol with any interest in football will know us, in the same way that you and I know Dundee, Luton Town, Carlisle Utd and Brentford.

b) No they won't care about us in the same way you & I don't care about Dundee, Luton Town, Carlisle Utd and Brentford.

 

The casual follower will have us down as relegation fodder in the same way most people would have had Bournemouth and Brentford down as relegation fodder and for Wigan to do quite well.

However, I would hope someone who works within football and is considering the next career move for themselves or their client would do some due diligence on whoever has bid for them.

How the average Joe sees City is a bit irrelevant really.

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I have read it.

a) Most people outside Bristol with any interest in football will know us, in the same way that you and I know Dundee, Luton Town, Carlisle Utd and Brentford.

b) No they won't care about us in the same way you & I don't care about Dundee, Luton Town, Carlisle Utd and Brentford.

The casual follower will have us down as relegation fodder in the same way most people would have had Bournemouth and Brentford down as relegation fodder and for Wigan to do quite well.

However, I would hope someone who works within football and is considering the next career move for themselves or their client would do some due diligence on whoever has bid for them.

How the average Joe sees City is a bit irrelevant really.

Maybe he has the confidence in his own ability that he would start for Newcastle?

Young Footballer in self confidence, ignorance shocker?

The agent, well he will go to the highest bidder and not give two shits about the best interests of the player. Premier league = $$$$

Yes there are exceptions but in general I'm right sadly

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You sir are a half wit.

Bull shit.

It wasn't effin bullshit you ****.

 

 

How is that back tracking

What is it with people on here

So anal it's untrue

 

Don't go getting a ban here, poppet

If it does come off then I want to see your reply!!

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Probably not the correct thread for this discussion; however, I thought I would offer up my thoughts regarding the opinion of Bristol City throughout the rest of the country.

 

Having served in the forces for coming up to 6 years now I have had the experience of being based at various locations throughout the UK.

Whenever the subject of football came up and I would be asked who I supported, I of course said City's name with pride, this was and has been generally met with scoffs of laughter and the question of 'what league are they in then?' bearing in mind these comments were even made during 07/08 when we were challenging for the prem.

 

Another example when recently discussing potential signings for us and more specifically Joey Barton, the question was asked of me 'why would he want to go to Bristol? Surely there are better teams in the Championship that he can go to?'

 

I of course defend our club's name with honour in any football related conversation (argument) but being an exiled fan you do start to understand the thinking behind fans of these so called 'bigger' clubs fans and their apparent right to sign anyone and everyone they so wish. 

 

I guess the point that I am trying to make is that if this is the opinion of (some) of the other teams fans towards us, it doesn't bode well when trying to sign a player when he have competition from some 'bigger' names.

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Probably not the correct thread for this discussion; however, I thought I would offer up my thoughts regarding the opinion of Bristol City throughout the rest of the country.

Having served in the forces for coming up to 6 years now I have had the experience of being based at various locations throughout the UK.

Whenever the subject of football came up and I would be asked who I supported, I of course said City's name with pride, this was and has been generally met with scoffs of laughter and the question of 'what league are they in then?' bearing in mind these comments were even made during 07/08 when we were challenging for the prem.

Another example when recently discussing potential signings for us and more specifically Joey Barton, the question was asked of me 'why would he want to go to Bristol? Surely there are better teams in the Championship that he can go to?'

I of course defend our club's name with honour in any football related conversation (argument) but being an exiled fan you do start to understand the thinking behind fans of these so called 'bigger' clubs fans and their apparent right to sign anyone and everyone they so wish.

I guess the point that I am trying to make is that if this is the opinion of (some) of the other teams fans towards us, it doesn't bode well when trying to sign a player when he have competition from some 'bigger' names.

Exactly right! Some people need to get out of Bristol/ stop reading OTIB/ the evening post

(I sincerely wish it wasn't so by the way)

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so your "source" is still saying it's a done deal?!

Mate. I have the text which I have showed to some members on here saying he's signed.

I said I've been told it's a done deal.

If that appears not to be the case then I've been told duff info however nobody has died as a result of this

I have given info to the forum which I rarely do that I am informed is correct.

If no body did this then you would have nothing to talk about.

Even my mates who have seen the texts have talked about Newcastle

What I don't appreciate is people that only contribute abuse and negativity and question my integrity

Remember you do not make yourself look good by trying to make someone else look bad.

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