Ross McCrorie signed - Confirmed

[Rocky]

Kasper is 36, past it?!

He has the same agent as Eliasson!

[Kodjias Wrist]

4 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

A bit of wee came out....

Sure its wee ? 

[Merrick's Marvels]

6 hours ago, Dynamite Red said:

I wonder if we're considering reverting back to 3 at the back with Bryan and McCrorie as wing backs. Otherwise attacking fullbacks unless there playing further forward.

McCrorie's main weakness is reported as lacking a final ball.

We won't be playing someone who can't cross the ball as a wide player high up the pitch.

Given, as well as his physical attributes, he's described as a leader and captain material, I'd wager the plan is for him to play in a central position, from where he can influence the whole team. He seems, to me, the type of player you sign if the spine of your team needs strengthening  

Edited April 26, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels

[Son of Fred]

11 hours ago, Puckle_red said:

Was more excited about the Currie signing, made more sense. Pring as first choice, Currie as cover. Not sure how JB fits in there. 

Please, no......living in the past,rose tinted ?? - never go back...x player knocking on the door of 30??

Let's look forwards.

[Davefevs]

7 hours ago, Son of Fred said:

Please, no......living in the past,rose tinted ?? - never go back...x player knocking on the door of 30??

Let's look forwards.

Player who knows how to get out of this league.

Player who would make us stronger.

A problem this club has had in recent years is not knowing what it takes to be successful at this level.  So you bring those people (players and staff) to compliment what you have.

[RedorDead BCFC]

19 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Rosenior (Hull) links with Fulham (in the past) perhaps, makes this very credible.

Yep, think he was signed with an eye (at least) on Scott’s impending move.

Didn’t they say with Memheti  that he was a summer target that they had to get done early for some reason. 

[Davefevs]

43 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Didn’t they say with Memheti  that he was a summer target that they had to get done early for some reason. 

Both him and Cornick were summer targets from what was said, but could be brought forward because of Antoine’s money.

I suspect with Mehmeti, getting in early before everyone else became aware of his £1m release clause was a good reason too!

(allegedly)

edit: Cornick was a target last summer also!

Edited April 27, 2023 by Davefevs

[Jeez]

On 26/04/2023 at 18:45, Rocky said:

Kasper is 36, past it?!

He has the same agent as Eliasson!

Probably has couple seasons left as a keeper if fit & heart is still in it.

Would be a real coup & great for Max but this is most likely wishful thinking he’ll sign up.

[Robbored]

53 minutes ago, Jeez said:

Probably has couple seasons left as a keeper if fit & heart is still in it.

Would be a real coup & great for Max but this is most likely wishful thinking he’ll sign up.

I’d have thought that with all his experience Kasper would want to be first choice. He’s still got a few seasons left as a top keeper.

As others have said Kasper rates Nige very highly so you never know………..

[Jerseybean]

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/worth-at-least-double-that-former-portsmouth-midfielders-ps2m-asking-price-slammed-as-he-closes-in-on-bristol-city-move-4123937

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/worth-at-least-double-that-former-portsmouth-midfielders-ps2m-asking-price-slammed-as-he-closes-in-on-bristol-city-move-4123937

When this first broke, I was really surprised we might be thinking of paying £2m, but maybe that’s the going rate.  Just surprised me that we might pay that much for a CB.  Thought we’d be paying around the £1m mark for players.

[brad blit]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

When this first broke, I was really surprised we might be thinking of paying £2m, but maybe that’s the going rate.  Just surprised me that we might pay that much for a CB.  Thought we’d be paying around the £1m mark for players.

I agree, thought the highest we would pay for a player would be £1m. But do you also think City may be happy to pay double for a key area (ie RCB) and someone who can come in and do a job straight away, rather than a young prospect from lower league who needs time to develop (ie Currie)?

[Cardy]

17 minutes ago, brad blit said:

I agree, thought the highest we would pay for a player would be £1m. But do you also think City may be happy to pay double for a key area (ie RCB) and someone who can come in and do a job straight away, rather than a young prospect from lower league who needs time to develop (ie Currie)?

I’m not sure the transfer fee is quite as important as the weekly wage - particularly with the Semenyo & Scott money coming in. If £2m & say £8k a week buys you a top quality CB then the additional £1m initial outlay pales into insignificance once you consider that the player may well be worth more than £2m at the end of his contract anyway.
Budget management is all about the weekly wage for me & it would seem you can get good value for money with that when you go shopping in Scotland.

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, brad blit said:

I agree, thought the highest we would pay for a player would be £1m. But do you also think City may be happy to pay double for a key area (ie RCB) and someone who can come in and do a job straight away, rather than a young prospect from lower league who needs time to develop (ie Currie)?

One should also consider that McCrorie is able, apparently, to perform in several positions in defence and defensive midfield. This is how Pearson builds a squad that will be able to adjust during a match to suit the opposition tactics.

We already have Pring, Tanner, Naismith, Scott, Sykes, Weimann, who are able to perform in various positions so another one or two will complement. It's a very good way of having two players to cover every team position without having 22 in the squad. Thus allowing Academy boys to make appearances to help their growth into senior players.

We must also remember that we cannot count Atkinson and Benarous as first team squad members until possibly around Christmas/ New Year.

[Port Said Red]

Just now, cidered abroad said:

One should also consider that McCrorie is able, apparently, to perform in several positions in defence and defensive midfield. This is how Pearson builds a squad that will be able to adjust during a match to suit the opposition tactics.

We already have Pring, Tanner, Naismith, Scott, Sykes, Weimann, who are able to perform in various positions so another one or two will complement. It's a very good way of having two players to cover every team position without having 22 in the squad. Thus allowing Academy boys to make appearances to help their growth into senior players.

We must also remember that we cannot count Atkinson and Benarous as first team squad members until possibly around Christmas/ New Year.

Benarous may be ready before then, I believe we may see him involved in pre-season training.

[cidered abroad]

16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Benarous may be ready before then, I believe we may see him involved in pre-season training.

Good and thanks for the info. Whilst he is not a copy midfielder to Scott, if Scott goes and Benarous can  stay fit, the loss of Scott will be minimised. Solid midfielders like Matty James are essential but the one's that my Dad used to call "Tin openers" are the gems who win matches.

Examples from the past.

Tommy Burden 1955, Gerry Gow, Shelton, Doherty. To name a few.

Edited April 29, 2023 by cidered abroad

[Buckeyed]

On 27/04/2023 at 11:02, Davefevs said:

Both him and Cornick were summer targets from what was said, but could be brought forward because of Antoine’s money.

I suspect with Mehmeti, getting in early before everyone else became aware of his £1m release clause was a good reason too!

(allegedly)

edit: Cornick was a target last summer also!

I reckon Mehmeti would be at QPR this summer with Ainsworth if we hadn't signed him when we did.

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, cidered abroad said:

One should also consider that McCrorie is able, apparently, to perform in several positions in defence and defensive midfield. This is how Pearson builds a squad that will be able to adjust during a match to suit the opposition tactics.

We already have Pring, Tanner, Naismith, Scott, Sykes, Weimann, who are able to perform in various positions so another one or two will complement. It's a very good way of having two players to cover every team position without having 22 in the squad. Thus allowing Academy boys to make appearances to help their growth into senior players.

We must also remember that we cannot count Atkinson and Benarous as first team squad members until possibly around Christmas/ New Year.

Though Nigel indicated in his press conference this week that he would prefer to sign specialists rather than versatile players.

He gave Zak as an example of someone who had played in multiple positions but has had his best season playing in his specialist position.

[cidered abroad]

3 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Though Nigel indicated in his press conference this week that he would prefer to sign specialists rather than versatile players.

He gave Zak as an example of someone who had played in multiple positions but has had his best season playing in his specialist position.

It's very true that a player normally performs best in one position.

But if a player has league experience of other positions, that is a real bonus. Not only because they can move temporarily there but also because they understand the needs of colleagues. When and how to involve them or to take a different way.

[Davefevs]

3 hours ago, brad blit said:

I agree, thought the highest we would pay for a player would be £1m. But do you also think City may be happy to pay double for a key area (ie RCB) and someone who can come in and do a job straight away, rather than a young prospect from lower league who needs time to develop (ie Currie)?

Looks like we might do both.

If for example we take the 4 rumoured signings:

• ready: McCrorie / Bryan
• projects: Currie / O’Brien (bit like the Tanner signing)

3 hours ago, Cardy said:

I’m not sure the transfer fee is quite as important as the weekly wage - particularly with the Semenyo & Scott money coming in. If £2m & say £8k a week buys you a top quality CB then the additional £1m initial outlay pales into insignificance once you consider that the player may well be worth more than £2m at the end of his contract anyway.
Budget management is all about the weekly wage for me & it would seem you can get good value for money with that when you go shopping in Scotland.

You’re right, it’s all about budget, and how that gets used up over the length of the contract.  But it’s not all about weekly wage, the amortisation of the fee plays a large part too.  Tomas Kalas’s annual amortisation (£2m p.a) was higher than his wage (£1.25m p.a).

It is of course highly likely we can blow Aberdeen out if the water in wages.

12 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Though Nigel indicated in his press conference this week that he would prefer to sign specialists rather than versatile players.

He gave Zak as an example of someone who had played in multiple positions but has had his best season playing in his specialist position.

Think he needs a mix.  If he signs the players rumoured (see above) he’d have a nice mix, and compliment what we have already.

[glynriley]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Looks like we might do both.

If for example we take the 4 rumoured signings:

• ready: McCrorie / Bryan
• projects: Currie / O’Brien (bit like the Tanner signing)

You’re right, it’s all about budget, and how that gets used up over the length of the contract.  But it’s not all about weekly wage, the amortisation of the fee plays a large part too.  Tomas Kalas’s annual amortisation (£2m p.a) was higher than his wage (£1.25m p.a).

It is of course highly likely we can blow Aberdeen out if the water in wages.

Think he needs a mix.  If he signs the players rumoured (see above) he’d have a nice mix, and compliment what we have already.

If McCrorie comes in, where do you see him playing Dave? I’ve got a sneaky feeling he might be seen as the long term successor to Matt James. 

[GrahamC]

5 minutes ago, glynriley said:

If McCrorie comes in, where do you see him playing Dave? I’ve got a sneaky feeling he might be seen as the long term successor to Matt James. 

Good question.

When I watched him against Rangers he played RWB, according to Transfermarkt this season he’s played CB 15 times, DM 10 times RB (RWB) 8 times & RM 5 times, so pick the bones out of that!

I have no idea but we aren’t shelling out our highest fee under Nige without a plan.

[BLRed]

Have a feeling we would move on williams at end of contract. He’s not been cost efficient due to being injury prone. James has a lot more football to offer over the next 2-3 years IMO.

 

[chinapig]

21 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Think he needs a mix.  If he signs the players rumoured (see above) he’d have a nice mix, and compliment what we have already.

Agreed if you favour a relatively small squad as Nigel does, though as I said he focused on specialists in his press conference.

The risk is that you end up with the football equivalent of what they call in cricket bits and pieces players ie who can bat ok and bowl ok but are not outstanding at either.

Though I entirely trust Nigel's judgement on this.

 

[Davefevs]

46 minutes ago, glynriley said:

If McCrorie comes in, where do you see him playing Dave? I’ve got a sneaky feeling he might be seen as the long term successor to Matt James. 

My guess is CB, but I dunno really

22 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Agreed if you favour a relatively small squad as Nigel does, though as I said he focused on specialists in his press conference.

The risk is that you end up with the football equivalent of what they call in cricket bits and pieces players ie who can bat ok and bowl ok but are not outstanding at either.

Though I entirely trust Nigel's judgement on this.

 

Yes he did.

Hence why I think it’s a mix.  Even with those versatile players, most have a “strongest position”.

[Son of Fred]

1 hour ago, chinapig said:

The risk is that you end up with the football equivalent of what they call in cricket bits and pieces players ie who can bat ok and bowl ok but are not outstanding at either.

Sounds very like Cornick to me.

Bits & pieces, clubs in bag, utility players - am I being foolish to be mildly concerned this could be a direction we're heading?

Maybe I don't have the faith as yet that painful lessons have been chewed, swallowed & digested.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Bard]

On 26/04/2023 at 13:06, RedRoss said:

That'll be two great options at LB next season if so. Both explosive and full of pace. Wonder if we aren't pursuing Currie now then?

He has to play in front of Pring.  That would be really dynamic

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Son of Fred said:

am I being foolish to be mildly concerned this could be a direction we're heading?

Not foolish to wonder that, but I see none of this happening under Pearson and Tinnion.

Whilst fans are clamouring for 7-8, the club are saying 3-4…albeit depends on who / how many might go out.

So the verbal evidence is that we won’t be doing that. 

[Agard Days Night]

On 26/04/2023 at 15:29, Coxy27 said:

@Agard Days Night - Derrick Williams?

I wouldn’t have thought so. He’s playing in the Americas and hasn’t been linked with BCFC for a long time. Odd suggestion IMHO. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

On 26/04/2023 at 14:29, brad blit said:

I don’t think we’ll be changing formations for one player, especially with the reasonable success we’ve had with this new formation. 

IF Bryan signs he will compete with Pring for left back, or could even play further forward as left side of 3 up top. Pearson wants more players with good physical attributes (strong, quick, good stamina) that can fill numerous positions so Joe fits the bill. 

Nige has preferred to play with a front 2 at a lot of his previous clubs. We won't change formations for one player but we could bring in players to play a certain formation/system. 

I'm not sure if we will stick with playing 433. I think we may go for a 442 or even back to 352. 

At Watford Nige liked his wide midfielders to come infield and press.. This is the role I think Cornick may have been brought in for. 

Lots of us have suggested Bryan could play CM so if Nige was looking for a wide left midfielder who could come infield and press, he could be well suited to that role. 

Edited May 2, 2023 by W-S-M Seagull