Open End Numb Legs Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Here's my take having not read the previous pages. 1. I am normally very fussy about these sort of national identity things. 2. For some reason, I don't mind this different cross. Maybe because it is not meant to offend, is clearly just artistic licence and the colours do work well. 3. Is it another case of the media freaking out based on some fans views rather than what the majority think? Blown out of all proportion? Bigger things to worry about? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, supercidered said: All I did was respond to your post: 'St George wasn't even English'. The end. He wasn't. The end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 (edited) I haven't had my full woke bingo card until Sixtyseconds comes on and writes an illiterate sonnet Edited March 22 by !james 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 If it's only about the colours... am I meant to love this and feel proud? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colombo Robin Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 38 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Lovely. Got a semi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: If it's only about the colours... am I meant to love this and feel proud? Perfect example of the hypocrisy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: If it's only about the colours... am I meant to love this and feel proud? WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, phantom said: No relevance to this debate Agree. The fact he wasn't English has no relevance in this debate. However, in 11 pages it has grown many arms and legs which topics invariably do. If they didn't do so then these topics / debates would be very short indeed and certainly not run for 11+ pages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 7 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Thanks mate. Seeing as you brought it up… anyone wanna buy a car? (gotta make the most of these sales opportunities!) Which part of the car has a tiny Cross of St George on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 23 minutes ago, phantom said: Page 1 of this thread It's clearly only about the colours changing, not sure why that is so difficult to understand No it’s fine, I get it now, only the colour matters. Was just trying to establish the parameters for being offended. A change to the form would have been fine. So no one would have complained about this. Got it. Cheers. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChippenhamRed Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 55 minutes ago, SecretSam said: I wonder if they’re having the same debate on OTIRDJ. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 22 Admin Report Share Posted March 22 20 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: No it’s fine, I get it now, only the colour matters. Was just trying to establish the parameters for being offended. A change to the form would have been fine. So no one would have complained about this. Got it. Cheers. I sometimes wonder how people get by day to day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 22 Admin Report Share Posted March 22 7 hours ago, phantom said: He's not been asked on record yet, but there's a live pre match conference with him and John Stones later this morning SSN are reporting the publics reaction so he's sure to be asked But there's no way he'll publicly criticise Nike etc for fear of contractual consequences Pre match interview is 7:30pm this evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSNagain Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 On 21/03/2024 at 13:19, SecretSam said: It's a huge rear light, not a 2cm x 1cm detail So you would have hated this, then? Yeh I remember this. And no, didn't like it at the time either. Next example please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Should I sue Nike for altering my flag? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSNagain Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 10 hours ago, richwwtk said: How is it 'woke gone mad' what is even woke about it at all? Looks to me like a designer just redesigned something for the sake of it, they have to earn their crust somehow! I agree that the plain red/white cross would have been a better option there, but it really isn't woke. It's just the horizontal bar looking like it's based on the colours of the away kit and the vertical bar based on the reds that are often involved as well, so just the colours generally included on the kits. Certainly not a rainbow or anything like that. I agree to a point. I can imagine its just re-colouring because a certain designer had an assignment to be quirky and different to previous years. Although, I would hazard a guess that said person/people is/are that of the woke persuasion. One that is unable to respect those with tradional values. Also one that would find amusement in pushing the buttons of people with tradition values. If a traditionalist was to design it, we wouldn't be having this debate. People are arguing that this is an over reaction. Possibly so. It could genuienly just be an innocent idea gone wrong. But if people didn't voice up about it now and let this go, then next time it could evolve in to something more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Cowshed said: Lovely. That’s a defaced flag? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 59 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I wonder if they’re having the same debate on OTIRDJ. Wish I could like this more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisdabaron Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 11 hours ago, richwwtk said: How is it 'woke gone mad' what is even woke about it at all? Looks to me like a designer just redesigned something for the sake of it, they have to earn their crust somehow! I agree that the plain red/white cross would have been a better option there, but it really isn't woke. It's just the horizontal bar looking like it's based on the colours of the away kit and the vertical bar based on the reds that are often involved as well, so just the colours generally included on the kits. Certainly not a rainbow or anything like that. Just a slight co-incidence its the flag in same style of the bisexual flag? Not that i care what that stands for, we just shouldnt be messing with traditional st george cross. Simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said: Just a slight co-incidence its the flag in same style of the bisexual flag? Except it isn't. For us a start that flag is three horizontal bars, not a cross. Also, the Nike design has red in it and a dark blue, neither of which are in the bisexual flag. The Nike design doesn't have pink either, which is in the bisexual flag. So, in short, the only thing it has in common with the bisexual flag is mid-blue and purple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 22 Admin Report Share Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said: Just a slight co-incidence its the flag in same style of the bisexual flag? Not that i care what that stands for, we just shouldnt be messing with traditional st george cross. Simple. It's already been confirmed that it's a shout out to the training gear used in 1966!! See pictures in previous pages No reason to try to create a situation not there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, phantom said: It's already been confirmed that it's a shout out to the training gear used in 1966!! See pictures in previous pages No reason to try to create a situation not there Probably because the anti woke idol Joey Barton posted that on twitter and his ever so helpful lemmings are out spreading the vitriol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewisdabaron Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, phantom said: It's already been confirmed that it's a shout out to the training gear used in 1966!! See pictures in previous pages No reason to try to create a situation not there Looks pretty similar to me…. Im sure its just some sort of massive coincidence though. #triggered 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 50 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Wish I could like this more. Was tempted to explain it in brackets but I thought…no, just let it sit there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChippenhamRed Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, phantom said: I sometimes wonder how people get by day to day I find not giving a shit about the colour of a tiny flag on the back of a football shirt helps immensely. 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Anyone? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, phantom said: Seems a pretty fair and thorough summary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: I find not giving a shit about the colour of a tiny flag on the back of a football shirt helps immensely. My son's away kit arrived today, and the detail in question is actually inside the back collar- you can't even see it when it's being worn. I'm not sure anything could be more emblematic of the entire sorry furore than that tbh. Edited March 22 by Stortz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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