RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Fred89 said: No one made you marry your wife and we do have a choice if they refuse to play that’s a different question but I’m convinced we don’t even attempt to make them stay we just say if the price is right rather than let’s see where we are in January and go then ! It’s not up to them I disagree with this. I am confident that the club does all that it can in a proper manner to persuade players that they don't want to let go to stay. However it is not always possible. In Scott's case it was handled correctly on both sides, he wasn't actively pursuing a transfer or trying to run down his contract for example as others have done. I am sure there are players chasing the money of the Saudi pro league who clubs would have preferred to have kept but we're powerless to prevent, Fulham and Mitrovic are one example. Ofcourse there is the reverse position as well. If a player should honour his contract should not a club also. There has certainly been occasions where a, player has been frozen out and treated badly because the club wants rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: For the billionth time - he didn't want to stay. Are you suggesting we should have refused to let him go and instead have a seriously pissed off player stinking the place out for the rest of the season? Plus the fact, 25 million quid substantially helps our ffp position over the next several years and will allow us to bring in several new players to develop the squad as a whole. Again - forcing players to stay, when they want to move, is counter productive. I would say, put yourself in his shoes, but suspect you haven't the wit. Selling someone who cost us nothing for 25 million quid isn't lack of ambition, it's football, it's business, it's where we - and about 90 other English football clubs - are in the pecking order. It's a bummer, that's life. Comprendez??? Somehow I doubt it. And , might I add, a reason why young stars will look at us as an attractive proposition in their career development, as explained by Adam Murphy’s manager. Yep it is painful when we sell but if we recruit well then we will advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, phantom said: Has he signed for the right team? "Every time I’ve been here I’ve been speechless with the atmosphere" If it was last Boxing Day, that was definitely Baggies fans making the noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: He says every time he’s been at Ashton Gate he’s been made speechless by the atmosphere. Ironically he would have been as silent as the atmosphere itself Speechless at how strong the vitriol toward Pearson was on Boxing Day 2022 Edited August 22, 2023 by petehinton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Two questions. @Mr Popodopolous @ExiledAjax and other finance guys. How much of a financial mess are WBA in? This really does seem to come from nowhere. And Does it state anywhere he can’t play against them (as this is loan to buy does this change that)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: For the billionth time - he didn't want to stay. Are you suggesting we should have refused to let him go and instead have a seriously pissed off player stinking the place out for the rest of the season? Plus the fact, 25 million quid substantially helps our ffp position over the next several years and will allow us to bring in several new players to develop the squad as a whole. Again - forcing players to stay, when they want to move, is counter productive. I would say, put yourself in his shoes, but suspect you haven't the wit. Selling someone who cost us nothing for 25 million quid isn't lack of ambition, it's football, it's business, it's where we - and about 90 other English football clubs - are in the pecking order. It's a bummer, that's life. Comprendez??? Somehow I doubt it. Did Scott put in a transfer request? Does that even happen anymore? However the speed at which the deal got done at the death does suggest that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Cardiff filth. Hmmm. He was an excellent songwriter and guitarist, appearing and touring with Eric Clapton. He also sang one of my favourite songs when I was a young boy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolona Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 If the 700k loan fee and 1.3m signing fee is correct, is that just a way of spreading the payments out for ffp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Two questions. @Mr Popodopolous @ExiledAjax and other finance guys. How much of a financial mess are WBA in? This really does seem to come from nowhere. And Does it state anywhere he can’t play against them (as this is loan to buy does this change that)? It hasn't come from nowhere it's a long running saga. Try this from the excellent Action for Albion fans group. https://www.actionforalbion.co.uk/update-the-current-situation/ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Dynamite Red said: That bloke of Twitter is quoting a £700k loan fee for the season, option to make permanent for additional £1.3m. Seems reliable too. 55 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I’m not sure it does. A 700k loan fee is shit if he does well then decides he doesn’t want to sign permanently. It seems a bit slanted to me - if we were talking (say) 300-400k loan fee then the option at £1.7m that’d seem better for us. I think it’s pretty fair. It’s basically a £2m player being given to us to “try before we buy” for a third of the fee….enabling us to get it done quickly. It gives West Brom some cash, as it won’t be a huge wage saving for them for a young homegrown player. If we have to buy him NOW, they are probably asking for £1m as the first payment. Feels like a happy medium, and I’m not talking Doris Stokes! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Hmmm. He was an excellent songwriter and guitarist, appearing and touring with Eric Clapton. He also sang one of my favourite songs when I was a young boy. Indeed Phil, no argument on his career - supports a sh!tehouse football team though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Is he injured yet , 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: Feels like a happy medium, and I’m not talking Doris Stokes! A few years ago, a bloke in work said he’d been to a seance. One wag asked “was there anybody there” and he replied “yes me, my wife, some friends…” On TGH my only concern, perversely, is that he does too well and if we try to exercise, he looks for better. I expect in practical terms we’ll execute in January if all goes well (maybe even negotiating down if WBA still need cash flow), so probably will be a non concern if he does do ok as 4 months are unlikely to bring him onto others radars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 I think some may be surprised at how good this lad is and I’m amazed WBA are happy to let him go at the end of the season for £1.3m. You don’t get in the England U20s team without having ability as we seen with AS. I like the idea of him and Murphy joining and how we appear to be covering our midfield for the future although he can play RB & RWB as well as midfield 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, INCRED said: I think some may be surprised at how good this lad is and I’m amazed WBA are happy to let him go at the end of the season for £1.3m. You don’t get in the England U20s team without having ability as we seen with AS. I like the idea of him and Murphy joining and how we appear to be covering our midfield for the future although he can play RB & RWB as well as midfield Who’s Murphy , ? must admit never heard of Gardner Haskins either or what ever his name is until today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, redkev said: Who’s Murphy , ? must admit never heard of Gardner Haskins either or what ever his name is until today Keep up ffs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, redkev said: Who’s Murphy , ? must admit never heard of Gardner Haskins either or what ever his name is until today If only there was a seven page thread on the transfer forum and reports from both the evening post and Irish independent! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Anyone still think Pearson is anti loan? Its more purchase with a trial period. Much prefer loans with options than just loans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 They've only got room for his 3 initials on his shirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, redkev said: Who’s Murphy , ? must admit never heard of Gardner Haskins either or what ever his name is until today Danny Murphy. Signing on a 3 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Caveat Emptor, in this instance fitness permitting Am cautiously optimistic about this signing. Young, yet good Championship experience- versatile. Has his strengths and weaknesses of course but feels like one of the boxes might have been ticked. England U20 too- scout report was promising. Welcome Taylor. Oh first loan under NP too! A landmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, Silvio Dante said: If only there was a seven page thread on the transfer forum and reports from both the evening post and Irish independent! Just sat down up at 4am this morning 13 hour day at work , gym ,take dog for walk now stuffing my face and go online to see city have signed / loaned some yuppy sounding bloke from the baggies and were looking at some bloke called Murphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Danny Murphy. Signing on a 3 year deal He’s too busy on talk sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Anyone got a highlights video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, brad blit said: Anyone got a highlights video? I do but not of this player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, brad blit said: Anyone got a highlights video? DMd you on Twitter. It’s not much, hence why I’ve not bothered putting it on my account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Tootle Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Pearson clearly likes players who can actually string a sentence together rather than just repeating you know every other word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Sounds a bit too similar to Jason Knight for my liking. Decent signing but not one which is going to allay concerns about a lack of creativity ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Wow - I thought tomorrow absolute earliest. Either it’s moved very very fast today or it’s been in the works for a couple days but only got leaked today. Regardless - I like this move. Welcome TGH ️ Bold gives me hope. If we get Murphy in, if we can get one more midfielder and a forward in a similar manner. Could be (cautious) cause for optimism we may yet see more incomings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Seems reliable too. I think it’s pretty fair. It’s basically a £2m player being given to us to “try before we buy” for a third of the fee….enabling us to get it done quickly. It gives West Brom some cash, as it won’t be a huge wage saving for them for a young homegrown player. If we have to buy him NOW, they are probably asking for £1m as the first payment. Feels like a happy medium, and I’m not talking Doris Stokes! Do you think TGH has already signed a “pre-contract” here, so we can trigger the transfer without his consent in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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